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Here we go again, right after the dipshit testified on the Hill this week about energy standards on stoves (the one who didn't know what it took to replace a gas oven with electric).

I wonder how they'll achieve this by simultaneously banning gas (as they're doing here on the left coast)...

1 posted on 07/22/2023 7:45:53 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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Remember. When the government gets involved, everything usually turns to ****.


91 posted on 07/22/2023 9:29:17 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("There's no cryin' in baseball and there's no ethics in politics!" )
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They did this a few years back. The only way to increase efficiency is to super insulate the heater. They did this and the price of an electric hot water heater jumped from $200 to $400. But there is an even bigger issue. The heaters became larger. And they often no longer fit in the spaces that were designed for them. And the spaces can’t always be resigned as there might not be any room to do so.

The difference in putting more insulation in them is going to be extremely minuscule as they are already close to the max. And the price will jump even more.

These authorities just love to come up with ways to push their authority. They are really causing pain out in the real world. Soon many people will have to go without hot water.


94 posted on 07/22/2023 9:44:53 AM PDT by Revel
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People have such short memories”

“The higher the EF, the more energy efficient the appliance. In April of 2015, the Department of Energy updated minimum standards for EF ratings on virtually all gas, electric, propane, and oil fired water heaters. These new water heater efficiency standards could change your next water heater purchase.”


96 posted on 07/22/2023 9:49:54 AM PDT by Revel
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I want government to leave me the F alone.


97 posted on 07/22/2023 10:00:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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And the condensing heaters need all kinds of fancy flues to exit the condensed leavings.


98 posted on 07/22/2023 10:05:09 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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The government does not do anything to benefit the working people, so this is obviously bogus.


101 posted on 07/22/2023 10:24:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (A man is not a woman. A woman is not a man. There is no in-between or undefined middle. Cat = cat.)
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Whatever happened to those solar hot water systems they had back in the 70’s?


105 posted on 07/22/2023 10:55:17 AM PDT by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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No government instituted standard has ever resulted in reduced expenditures by the serfs...


107 posted on 07/22/2023 10:56:48 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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“Water heating is responsible for roughly 13% of both annual residential energy use and consumer utility costs”

If you added up all these percentages they cite, I wonder what it would come out to.


108 posted on 07/22/2023 11:04:55 AM PDT by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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Beat me to the “here we go again”.


109 posted on 07/22/2023 11:13:32 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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SOOOOOOOOOOO—IF I read this correctly-—NOW they WANT gas fired water heaters—NOT electric???


112 posted on 07/22/2023 11:31:20 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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As far as I can tell, "energy efficient" is achieved by lowering the "power" of whatever appliance you are using. The last electric stove that I got was "energy efficient". It now takes more than 30 minutes to get a pot of water to boil in order to cook some pasta. With the new washing machine and dryer that are "energy efficient", it now takes me most of the day to wash/dry 2-3 loads of clothes.

I hate "greenies".

118 posted on 07/22/2023 11:41:24 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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Stop the madness. Government central planning gone viral.


121 posted on 07/22/2023 11:44:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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The climate change junkies will do for us what the Soviets did for their people.


124 posted on 07/22/2023 11:46:49 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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A hot water heater for ever sidizen.
134 posted on 07/22/2023 1:50:08 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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defund these agencies and prosecute the heads


143 posted on 07/23/2023 3:37:38 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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