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Cops shoot two bystanders while killing New Mexico knifeman who stabbed Good Samaritan
Daily Mail ^ | 7/21/23 | Noa Halff

Posted on 07/22/2023 6:14:18 AM PDT by CFW

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To: CFW
I think they were truly innocent bystanders.

I had to ask. Lord knows there's no shortage of videos out there where the "bystanders" are actively interfering with the police trying to make an arrest.

21 posted on 07/22/2023 6:46:16 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: gunnut

Watched the video, I counted 22 rounds being fired and the officers were shooting from multiple directions. My guess is that they will determine he was shot by more than one of these bad cops.

The officers were in no danger from the knife. The innocent bystander was clearly the most endangered but was he in more danger from the guy with the knife or from the crazy gunfire from the officers. I would say the gunfire was worse.


22 posted on 07/22/2023 6:46:30 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: CFW

Here is the other important part of the article:

“ Salyards was recently released from prison for stabbing a city bus driver in 2020. He spent three years in prison after being convicted of the crime and was released in May, prior to the attack. ”

3 years for stabbing someone? Who could have seen this coming?


23 posted on 07/22/2023 6:47:27 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: CFW
These cops are poorly trained and unpracticed in discipline.

There was no need to maintain that much distance in this circumstance.

Once the perp is down, the 'closing distance' shrinks, and should be used to the cops advantage.

The continued shots without care for accuracy or risk beyond the target, are reckless.

24 posted on 07/22/2023 6:47:48 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: gunnut

Since the cops have “Qualified Immunity”, the innocent bystanders are screwed. I hope they have good insurance.


25 posted on 07/22/2023 6:49:59 AM PDT by LuigiBonnafini
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One knife wielder and four cops.

Bunch of feminized assholes.


26 posted on 07/22/2023 6:50:38 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: CFW

The guy had a knife. Get closer.

The cops who hit the innocent so many times tells me they were actually malicious with their shooting.


27 posted on 07/22/2023 6:58:07 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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> The innocent bystander was clearly the most endangered but was he in more danger from the guy with the knife or from the crazy gunfire from the officers. <

I get that a suspect armed with a gun is a huge danger. But this guy was armed with a knife. It would seem to me that once he was down, a beanbag shotgun should have been deployed.

But the wild gunfire continued. I’m actually surprised the innocent guy on the left wasn’t shot to death.


28 posted on 07/22/2023 7:06:51 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Could have been prevented from being able to stab this victim——BUT we keep ‘letting them out’.


29 posted on 07/22/2023 7:09:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: CFW

One of the things always drilled into us was the adage:
(ability , opportunity, jeopardy.)

Did the suspect have the ability to hurt someone. Well, Yes, he had a knife on him.
Opportunity, He might have the opportunity to hurt them or the other people he was near. So it’s important to get any weapons away from him.
Jeopardy, The only one in immediate danger was the man next to him. Did they try to protect that man ? Did they identify
if he was a threat ?
Were the Officers in danger from the Knife, at that distance?
Did the Officers take steps to insure innocents were not in the line of fire ?
And did the Officers stop shooting when the threat was neutralized ?

They screwed up, big time and should be terminated for the terrible shooting and their threat to the public.


30 posted on 07/22/2023 7:09:26 AM PDT by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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Always travel with a dog you’re not fond of...


31 posted on 07/22/2023 7:19:19 AM PDT by null and void (Intelligence has limits, while gullibility doesn't. ~ SunkenCiv)
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I think the lesson is don’t be a bystander. Get involved.


32 posted on 07/22/2023 7:19:55 AM PDT by rey
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According to Dr. Clarissa Cole fully half the candidates who flat out failed her psych eval were hired anyway.


33 posted on 07/22/2023 7:21:34 AM PDT by null and void (Intelligence has limits, while gullibility doesn't. ~ SunkenCiv)
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To: TalBlack

In the military, the rule is we don’t engage the enemy unless we have at least a 3:1 ratio of our forces to their forces. So I guess you believe the military is also a bunch of “feminized assholes.”


34 posted on 07/22/2023 7:22:29 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: Lurker

Ok just a sec


35 posted on 07/22/2023 7:22:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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My biggest concern in a shootout is the ...... uh, “passthrus”. A bullet going thru the criminal and hitting my while I’m doing my best to hide behind a lamppost. Mebbe coppers need to use bullets like air marshals do.


36 posted on 07/22/2023 7:25:52 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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Totally acceptable losses, they are only civilians. Rules of engagement are stop the threat at any and all costs...


37 posted on 07/22/2023 7:28:29 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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“...no shortage of videos out there where the “bystanders” are actively interfering with the police...”

True, last place I want to be is near an active shooting!


38 posted on 07/22/2023 7:37:17 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Lurker

As recently as 15 years ago, the Albuquerque police used to be the gold standard for police marksmanship and taking down legitimate bad guys. Before the Middle East wars. The navy even sent seals to go train with them. Then the local press and democrats started some silly body count. They kept score how many bad guys shot vs how many officers wounded. The ratio showed the cops were unfair.
They took away officers used of personal pistols, then they started requiring college degrees. Then they vastly expanded internal affairs where they literally have one IA guy for each field officer. Then they started aggressively pushing for females, gays, minorities and people with a therapeutic mentality. The city asked the DOJ to appoint a Federal master who approves all training… and he carefully looks at all of it for anything that seems even slightly aggressive.
They hired chiefs from woke cities around the country, including one who didn’t even bother with getting certified as a cop in NM. They just called him a chief of staff.

And you wind up with 4 woke cops including two women lighting up a guy with a knife and hitting two bystanders in the barrage.

It’s an embarrassment to people who know how APD was before woke.


39 posted on 07/22/2023 7:45:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: LuigiBonnafini

In New Mexico cops do not have qualified immunity… at all.


40 posted on 07/22/2023 7:52:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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