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To: Reno89519

Ugghhhh believe me, a lot of the people here don’t want to hear it. They could literally go over a cliff with Trump hurtling toward ground at warp speed & would still be denying reality. There are great things about Trump, I voted for him twice. Unfortunately half of what he dies is soooo counter productive. Laura is a fire breathing conservative in every way, but somehow in their minds- because she cautioned Trump to be smarter- they will convince themselves that she’s with the establishment ๐Ÿ™„ These are the same folks who will actively sit out a state election knowing it will elect a leftist Democrat because Trump didn’t give the Republican his blessing. I don’t like the moderates or the establishment types either. I vote against them in the primaries- but I still deal with reality in the general election. Anyone remember the Georgia elections for Senate. They sat out that election because Trump was angry with Georgia officials (rightly so). So Only Trumpers sat out the election. There are now 2 liberal Democrat US Senators from Georgia & a Democrat majority in the US Senate with Chucky Schumer running things. I am so tired of having our fortunes tied to these folks! Can’t win without them & they make it impossible to win with them given their behavior. All any of these geniuses will say in response is that anyone on our side is a moderate or an establishmentarian or a secret future Democrat. Nope! Solidly conservative on EVERYTHING!!! I’m just not tying my sense of identity as a conservative to any one person. I’m brutally aware that in order to succeed politically in championing conservatism or any other philosophy, you need far more than one person. You need a whole host of leaders & you need a majority of the electorate to vote you in. But they don’t seem capable of hearing that or taking criticism & changing course. So our choices recently have been- the old, corrupt, big business, moderate establishment or an Only Trump cult of personality that only cares about him & won’t live on after he’s gone & can’t win unless it converts more people I don’t like either of those choices. I strongly think we need a viable third option. I’m not willing to follow either of those groups off an electoral cliff. I actually care about conservatism & this country more than any candidate for President ๐Ÿ˜‰


41 posted on 07/21/2023 8:00:20 PM PDT by redheadedshannon
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To: redheadedshannon

Your thoughtful post is appreciated.


53 posted on 07/21/2023 8:14:37 PM PDT by NautiNurse (๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
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To: redheadedshannon
Everything you described here is dead on.

And it is one of the most self-destructive political movements I have ever witnessed

75 posted on 07/21/2023 8:39:44 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: redheadedshannon

“I actually care about conservatism & this country more than any candidate for President”

You are living in political lalaland.


124 posted on 07/22/2023 1:22:21 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump knows where all the bodies lie - just sayin.....)
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To: redheadedshannon

If you look at politics globally you can see a populist swing that is becoming unstoppable. Its here in our country now. More and more people demand politicians represent the people not the party donor class, And demand they deliver what they campaign on. More and more people aren’t willing to vote for the lesser of two evils anymore. More and more people are demanding an end to RINO Uni Party DC. They want what Trump offers, America First. These same voters are finished with lying, political backstabbers and the former argument that to support them means keeping a liberal out of office. People and times are beginning to change. The GOP can change with it and see the old guard like the Bushes and Paul Ryan lose power or it can die under the populist surge.


128 posted on 07/22/2023 2:03:45 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: redheadedshannon
Laura is a fire breathing conservative in every way, but somehow in their minds- because she cautioned Trump to be smarter- they will convince themselves that sheโ€™s with the establishment ๐Ÿ™„

Yes, they're convinced that anyone who isn't 100% in lockstep with whatever Trump says at any given moment is "Establishemnt." It's amusing.

These are the same folks who will actively sit out a state election knowing it will elect a leftist Democrat because Trump didnโ€™t give the Republican his blessing.

As in the Georgia runoffs. This is why we have a Democrat Senate.

180 posted on 07/22/2023 3:48:33 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: redheadedshannon

That bears repeating, but use paragraphs.


181 posted on 07/22/2023 3:49:56 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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