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UK Defense Ministry: Russia's Black Sea blockade at risk from Ukrainian surface drones, missiles
The Kiev Independent via Yahoo ^ | July 20th, 2023 | Martin Fornusek

Posted on 07/20/2023 7:20:07 AM PDT by Mariner

The Russian Black Sea Fleet will likely take an active role in blocking trade routes, but the blockade will be at risk from Ukrainian surface drones and cruise missiles, the U.K. Defense Ministry reported on July 20.

The British intelligence analysis noted that Russia's withdrawal from the Black Sea Grain Initiative on July 17 effectively canceled security assurances for the passage of cargo vessels.

The decision was likely made some time ago as the agreement did not serve the Kremlin's interest any longer, the ministry wrote.

The analysis said that Russia seeks to mask this with disinformation, claiming that civilian ships are at risk from Ukrainian mines and that Kyiv was using the grain corridor for military goals, without providing any evidence.

The Russian Defense Ministry declared on July 19 that as of July 20, all vessels sailing to Ukrainian ports will be considered "potential carriers of military cargo" and therefore legitimate targets.

According to the White House, the Kremlin is considering attacking civilian vessels on the Black Sea and then putting the blame on Ukraine. U.S. National Security Council spokesperson Adam Hodge said that Russian forces laid additional sea mines in approaches toward Ukrainian ports.

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Russia has 7 improved Project 636.6 Kilo subs in the Black Sea.

They are not at risk from Ukrainian surface drones or ASMs.

A question to ponder: Why would Russia sink a ship and then blame Ukraine? I would think after their blockade announcement they would want to claim the sinking.

Also, no ship insurance will cover ships entering Ukrainian waters.

1 posted on 07/20/2023 7:20:07 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilo-class_submarine


2 posted on 07/20/2023 7:22:06 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I have no doubt that the Russian submarines will be detected and neutralized. Hopefully they will be hunted with the same enthusiasm as they hunt.


3 posted on 07/20/2023 7:28:42 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC
Blockading for beginners
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4 posted on 07/20/2023 7:36:10 AM PDT by CapandBall
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To: Mariner

All Ukraine has to do (and it already did) is reciprocate by announcing that any Russian-bound shipping is a fair target.

Just the threat is enough. Its a weapon in itself. No insurer will insure any ship heading east of Romania.


5 posted on 07/20/2023 7:37:19 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: CapandBall

"Nice!"

6 posted on 07/20/2023 7:39:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CapandBall

That’s a two way street.


7 posted on 07/20/2023 7:41:52 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Hunted with what? Nazi pigeons?


8 posted on 07/20/2023 7:43:41 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: MeganC

Please do tell us about these amazing weapons that Ukraine has that can destroy whole Russian subs LOL


9 posted on 07/20/2023 7:48:11 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Truth be told the best weapon Ukraine has against Russian subs are the Russian crews and Russian weapons that have been killing Russian subs ever since 1945.


10 posted on 07/20/2023 7:52:44 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Are they seaworthy?

Russian Navy “Exercise” Sure Looks Like a Submarine on Fire

11 posted on 07/20/2023 7:55:19 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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“I have no doubt that the Russian submarines will be detected and neutralized.”

By whom, exactly?

Ukraine? lol


12 posted on 07/20/2023 7:55:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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They’ll be detected by NATO forces and then sunk by (wink, wink) ‘Ukrainians’ just like the Moskva was.


13 posted on 07/20/2023 7:59:34 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Timber Rattler

“Are they seaworthy?”

The USN thinks they are.


14 posted on 07/20/2023 7:59:37 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Timber Rattler

Is not fire! Is exercise!

Lol!


15 posted on 07/20/2023 8:00:53 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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“They’ll be detected by NATO forces and then sunk by (wink, wink) ‘Ukrainians’ just like the Moskva was.”

Additional proof you know Jack.


16 posted on 07/20/2023 8:01:18 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeganC

Nice fantasy you got there, did CNN tell you that?


17 posted on 07/20/2023 8:08:15 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Mariner

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/05/us-intelligence-russia-moskva-ukraine


18 posted on 07/20/2023 8:10:44 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

“did CNN tell you that?”

Nope, The Guardian did.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/05/us-intelligence-russia-moskva-ukraine


19 posted on 07/20/2023 8:11:47 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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The Kilo class sub when on electrics is extremely quiet and will require active sonar from a surface ship to establish a firing solution.


20 posted on 07/20/2023 8:26:12 AM PDT by NavyShoe
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