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To: Lakeshark

How has DeSantis sold out to the establishment? Look at his actions in Florida, not just the talk. He’s agenda there and nationally is not RINO, not GOPe. It is conservative, social conservative, fiscal conservative. Once DeSantis matches or replaces Trump I’m quite sure we’ll see RINO and GOPe disconnect. Right now it doesn’t matter as it is Trump 24x7. But we have 8 months.


15 posted on 07/17/2023 10:45:09 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Reno89519

Folks,

Start off remembering EVERY article we review is written with an agenda. An agenda to divide us and manipulate us.

The media loves to see us fight over the candidates. They quote Trump and DeSantis out of context.

THIS IS ALL MEdIA DRIVEN.

So what is a proper plan of action? Step one at least is to remember everything we read, especially the headlines is fake news.

Think before you post, ask questions, recognize there are good points of both, No candidate is perfect.

Have a proper fight on the issues and candidates. Don’t repeat the agenda of the media.


16 posted on 07/17/2023 10:54:11 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Reno89519
How has DeSantis sold out to the establishment?

I've liked him as a governor, as a newly minted Floridian, he's done a good job. He has disappointed me with his obvious connections to the old GOP who hates Trump. If RDS doesn't drop out soon, he will sink like a stone, even in the eyes of his Florida voters. I find that kind of sad, and can only attribute his run as one for money, a promise of his ascendance after Trump is "convicted" of beating Hillary, um, er....doing all those really baaaaaaad things the Hillary party says he does every day.

I find that off putting, there is no reason he will do any better than Trump. He is clearly not ready for this. He's not a very good campaigner, doesn't have the charisma necessary for a national campaign, and his numbers are dropping while Vivek is surpassing him.

He needs to quit before he damages his viability forever.

1. He clearly got bad advice from the GOP stalwarts that he could take out Trump. There is not another good explanation for this folly. They offered him money, position, dangling the carrot of fame for him. That he wasn't howling about the Stalinism of these indictments like Vivek and some others tells a lot. Not a good look.
2. His flip flop on Ukraine was a big tell. The donors ALL want Ukraine for some nefarious reason, and he complied.
3. His campaign staff is so overwhelmingly old GOP failures. That's another tell.
4. If you haven't noticed him getting the approvals from Paul Ryan, Rove, and the other Bushies, then kindly open your eyes.

17 posted on 07/17/2023 12:17:56 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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