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Ordering the Selected Reserve and Certain Members of the Individual Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty
the White House ^ | 07-13-2023 | Joseph Robinette Biden

Posted on 07/14/2023 4:11:50 AM PDT by absalom01

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To: absalom01

Two Words: CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION


61 posted on 07/14/2023 6:18:13 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: nonliberal

“deep state/globohomo/warmongers in the military industrial complex hadn’t decided it would be fun to play “irritate the bear.”

A fantasy. It is an absurd lie that Ukrainians did not want to be free of Russia (as do all its present and former republics). And you try and claim that as a justification for armed invasion? Ridiculous! Do you also contend the Poles “blew up the Gleiwitz radio tower”?

That sort of absurd immoral conjecture being accepted by weak minded people of questionable resolve is why evil is able to flourish.

If Russians in Ukraine are so supportive of Russia as to support invasion and conquest then they should be returned to Russia! And that goes for all Russians in countries outside Russa. They should all be expelled back to Russia. But of course they don’t want that! If they actually supported Russia they would have returned already. So they just mouth absurdities and agitate against the freedom and liberties of other people in their own countries.


62 posted on 07/14/2023 6:19:42 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: CodeToad

The whole argument is silly.

Such a mindset requires the US then fight in every conflict across the globe. Otherwise we are hypocrites regardless because we can’t and wont fight every war, so then I ask, what reason justifies fighting in some and not others? If our first premise was we have to because they were invaded, we have a lot more “waring” to do, so many rights to wrong.

Of course this fails to accept not all wars have a right and a wrong side, sometimes both sides are horribly wrong.


63 posted on 07/14/2023 6:21:54 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: Jane Long

It’s amazing how many whine using isolationist as an argument.
Where isn’t the US currently involved in various forms?
Aside from military, how many countries are spooks in?
Billions for Ukraine, and little in comparison to our own border.
Throw in a global economic recession and WWIII will be the plan.


64 posted on 07/14/2023 6:22:20 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Justa
It is an absurd lie that Ukrainians did not want to be free of Russia

Then let them vote. Unconstitutional Che Guevara uprisings (Euromaiden Revolution) are the opposite to freedom. I don’t blame any eastern and southern Ukrainian for asking Russia’s help.
65 posted on 07/14/2023 6:28:00 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: absalom01

Boots then nukes. Toll of billions.


66 posted on 07/14/2023 6:29:45 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: Justa
A fantasy. It is an absurd lie that Ukrainians did not want to be free of Russia

You are an outright liar. Ukraine was a democracy that voted for Pro-Russian candidates. Why? Russia has historically been their biggest trading partner. Color Revolutions stoked by western powers overthrew Ukraine’s democracy.
67 posted on 07/14/2023 6:31:17 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: EEGator

Please stop making so much sense...so early in the day :)


68 posted on 07/14/2023 6:31:22 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Jane Long

My apologies. I will say something completely ridiculous soon.


69 posted on 07/14/2023 6:33:40 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Justa
Stop being a contemptable RUSSOPHILE WARMONGER SUPPORTING RUSSIA’S INVASION AND CONQUEST OF OTHER NATIONS

 

1.  Stop shouting.  I haven't had my morning COVFEFE yet.

2.  Your attempt at turning the tables is ridiculous.  Actiually a better word is "risible", being so absurd as to provoke laughter.  Contemptuous laughter.

 

We don't need any more Neocon forever wars.

70 posted on 07/14/2023 6:41:23 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: hardspunned

The draft is not going to be reinstated over Ukraine (or Taiwan). There’s no war we would fight with another nuclear power that would need us to add combat brigades or would inflict a greater number of casualties than our volunteer recruiting pipeline or ability to reassign personnel.

With or without a draft, we’re probably looking at 24+ months to stand up a new combat brigade. From the introduction of legislation, at least 18 months to get combat-useful E2s and O1s into platoons, and to have NCOs and more senior officers moved over and replaced in the losing units. Defense contractors at least 18 months to get trucks, armor, artillery, light arms, comms, food, and health equipment and materials in place, and that’s a hurculean effort. Then six months to train to a deployable condition.

There’s zero use case for draftees for the Air Force, Navy or Coast Guard. In those branches, enlisted people maintain and support the operation of metal, and we have zero ability to add metal. It’s five years from order to delivery of a combat ship or plane.


71 posted on 07/14/2023 6:56:49 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: absalom01

No. No. No. NO!!


72 posted on 07/14/2023 7:08:37 AM PDT by NeverTyranny
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To: absalom01

The reserves have all been on active duty since Trump called them up before he left DC. He Federalized them. Biden isn’t calling up jack squat. Its just a piece of paper.


73 posted on 07/14/2023 7:13:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: NeverTyranny

Trump is the only major politician who is unambiguously, and loudly, opposing this war.

He either simply has the good sense to see that this is a disaster in the making with no reasonable US interest at stake, or has his finger on the pulse of the Republican base.

Either way, it’s good to at least have one politician making sense on this.


74 posted on 07/14/2023 7:14:43 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Nope.

You’re confused.


75 posted on 07/14/2023 7:23:36 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

No I’m not at all confused. I’m informed. The reserves have been federalized for 3 years. They are currently actively positioned in 27 states for reasons we don’t yet know. The ones in California are not from California. The ones in Texas are not from Texas etc. etc. The summer maneuvers story is for people who are uninformed.

Biden isn’t even Biden. Most people have figured that out.


76 posted on 07/14/2023 7:36:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: only1percent

Oh, I feel so relieved. We are one Uke false flag or insane use of British cruise missiles or DC reckless escalation from mobilization. You might want to acquaint yourself with the history of the 20th century and the history of the multiple US drafts.


77 posted on 07/14/2023 7:41:32 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The summer maneuvers story is for people who are uninformed.

Are there no reservists in the town where you live?  You could just go ask one when their last deployment was, and you would become truly informed.

What you are is delusional.  Get help.  

 

Biden isn’t even Biden. Most people have figured that out.

This we do know.  He's obviously a lizard person, has been for years.

78 posted on 07/14/2023 7:45:19 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

Well since you seem so informed why doesn’t Joe just order 3,000 of the reservists currently cooling their heels in 27 states to head to Europe? Yeh. You’re being played.


79 posted on 07/14/2023 8:00:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Justa
NATO is the geopolitical short bus. They decided to expand NATO membership to Russia's borders despite warnings from Putin. But the military industrial complex ignored them.

Maybe they shouldn't have.

I have to use the restroom and I'm out of toilet paper but there is a ukranian flag. That will do nicely.

80 posted on 07/14/2023 8:03:05 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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