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Joe Biden says Putin will have to cut a deal with Ukraine after counter-offensive losses
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | July 13th, 2023 | Nick Allen

Posted on 07/13/2023 6:59:43 PM PDT by Mariner

Joe Biden said that he expects Ukraine’s counter-offensive will eventually lead to negotiations to end the war with Russia.

The US president said he did not believe that Moscow could sustain the war for years, and Vladimir Putin had “already lost”.

He also warned that Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner Group mercenary chief who led a failed mutiny against Putin last month, should be careful about being poisoned.

Mr Biden speaking in Helsinki, Finland, said: “Putin’s already lost the war. Putin has a real problem – how does he move from here, what does he do? There is no possibility of him winning the war in Ukraine. He’s already lost that war.”

He said he did not think that “Russia could maintain the war forever in terms of their resources or capacity”, adding that “eventually President Putin is going to decide it’s not in the interests of Russia economically, or politically or otherwise” to continue the conflict.

The president added: “My hope is, and my expectation is, you’ll see that Ukraine makes significant progress on their offensive, and that it generates a negotiated settlement somewhere along the line.”

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First, Ukraine is denied a formal invitation and committed date to join NATO.

Second, Ukraine says no negotiations until the last Russian soldier is out. The POTUS says after the offensive there will be a negotiated settlement.

POTUS and associated neocons keep saying Russia cannot sustain, when it appears to any observer that NATO is having a much tougher time sustaining.

Surely Ukraine knows by now that there is no political will in the west for endless military engagement? And it most certainly NOT survive the next US election...if that long.

1 posted on 07/13/2023 6:59:43 PM PDT by Mariner
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2 posted on 07/13/2023 7:02:06 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano ( May 2023: I Guarantee McCarthy won’t allow Biden Impeachment to move forward )
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Biden has things backward as usual. It’s Ukraine and NATO that must make a deal with the Russians, even if it is a bad one.


3 posted on 07/13/2023 7:04:57 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: AnthonySoprano

Biden is not truthful? Who would ever believe it?


4 posted on 07/13/2023 7:04:58 PM PDT by silent majority rising
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“NATO is having a much tougher time sustaining”

Ha! Russian money printing presses are no match for American ones!

“There’s an infinite amount of cash at the Federal Reserve!”

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1635470213377323008


5 posted on 07/13/2023 7:05:12 PM PDT by packagingguy
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I assume that everything a democrat or journalist says is projection, and that they plan on doing what they accuse you of. So, from his statement old joe plans on cutting and running.


6 posted on 07/13/2023 7:06:30 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
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“He said he did not think that “Russia could maintain the war forever in terms of their resources or capacity”, adding that “eventually President Putin is going to decide it’s not in the interests of Russia economically, or politically or otherwise” to continue the conflict.”


Everything they say is 100 percent projection on their own situation.

Started with claiming in March 2023 that Russia was about to run out of ammunition, claiming they have unsustainable soldier and vehicle losses...

Listen to what they claim about Russia, and you know exactly what is going on with Ukraine and their NATO suppliers.


7 posted on 07/13/2023 7:06:55 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Biden might be thinking he may end up actually running against Trump if his DOJ fails to knock him off. Can’t have Trump saying he’s the only one who can atop ww3. Seems like they are choosing to delay until a 2nd term. Hopefully Trump can stop them.


8 posted on 07/13/2023 7:06:57 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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That’s it. Keep pushing Putin’s buttons. You think it’s ugly now ...


9 posted on 07/13/2023 7:08:00 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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I think economically this can be a long term benefit for Russia. They are effectively out of the globalist system. If the Russian people actually have the will to take this change to be innovators...Russia would be the place to be in 20 years. Big if though


10 posted on 07/13/2023 7:09:16 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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He looks like actor in movie Mask. Jim Carey?


11 posted on 07/13/2023 7:09:39 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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Here’s Putin’s deal; surrender or eventually get nuked, your choice Ukraine.


12 posted on 07/13/2023 7:10:58 PM PDT by drypowder
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13 posted on 07/13/2023 7:12:15 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano ( May 2023: I Guarantee McCarthy won’t allow Biden Impeachment to move forward )
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I'm pretty sure that Iceland will have to cut a deal with Ireland over the cross-Atlantic Nordic aggression against the Emerald Isle.

At least that's what The Tater thinks today.

14 posted on 07/13/2023 7:12:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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>Surely Ukraine knows by now that there is no political will in the west for endless military engagement? And it most certainly NOT survive the next US election...if that long.

The other problem is that Rutte did a head fake in Holland trying to garner more support, which he will not get.

AfD is surging in Germany, mostly among young Germans.

Italy and Greece already lost its left wing governance.

France is looking wobbly.

England’s only saving grace is that it doesn’t have a right-wing party.

But if the AfD wins 25-35% of the Bundestag with the CDU/CSU caucusing with them to form a majority, it’s over. It will take DECADES for the left to get power back.

The situation is far more precarious in the EU.


15 posted on 07/13/2023 7:13:24 PM PDT by struggle
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This is the same guy that said

He'll probably say the same about Ukraine.

16 posted on 07/13/2023 7:13:31 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Even his son has fake Teeth.

Biden’s kids and Lindsey Graham’s (imaginary) kids aren’t going to have to deal with the debt. This we know. What Motive does 80yr old Biden have to worry about the Future with $40 Trillion in Debt.


17 posted on 07/13/2023 7:14:46 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano ( May 2023: I Guarantee McCarthy won’t allow Biden Impeachment to move forward )
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18 posted on 07/13/2023 7:15:55 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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There might be an infinite amount of cash, but you can’t fire a dollar bill from an AK. So, at some point they just won’t have the supplies or logistics to keep fighting, as has already been detailed.

The most shameful thing, IMHO, is that without the US and NATO, throwing crumbs to the Ukraine, this whole thing would have been over long ago.

And regardless of how the negotiations shook out, there would be a lot less dead Ukrainians and a lot less destruction of the country. Ukraine has and continues to pay a severe price, as puppets to the worlds warmongers.


19 posted on 07/13/2023 7:19:09 PM PDT by qaz123
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“Here’s Putin’s deal; surrender or eventually get nuked, your choice Ukraine.”

No need. With NATO out of weapons, or at least weapons they’re willing to give Ukraine, it only makes sense that the war ends soon, and ends in Russia’s favor.


20 posted on 07/13/2023 7:21:20 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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