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Help Veterans, Lawyers. What does this mean? Biden is “Ordering the Selected Reserve…”
The White House ^ | Whitehouse.gov

Posted on 07/13/2023 6:13:26 PM PDT by FlyingFish

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation Atlantic Resolve in and around the United States European Command’s area of responsibility.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atlanticresolve; bidenadm; oar; operation; presidentialorder; selectedreserve
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To: qaz123

Hmmm. Will check that out.


61 posted on 07/13/2023 7:10:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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To: M Kehoe

Neither would I, this time


62 posted on 07/13/2023 7:10:23 PM PDT by The Mayor (Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day.)
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To: struggle

they’re not going to go all in unless Russia does something CLEARLY reprehensible.

And there’s my concern. Although I don’t think it will be something the Russia does.

Ukraine fired a missile into Poland(?) and blamed it on Russia. They were trying to provoke a response and get some help.

As for Zelensky, I think he’s stolen enough money that when the end is near, he’ll be on a plane that will take him somewhere in Europe or Dubai and he’ll live the rest of his miserable existence.


63 posted on 07/13/2023 7:11:10 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

>As for Zelensky, I think he’s stolen enough money that when the end is near, he’ll be on a plane that will take him somewhere in Europe or Dubai and he’ll live the rest of his miserable existence.

Yeah the liberal west isn’t past making a fool of themselves, but that was doable in the 2010s. Now everyone has cameras and the information leaks immediately. It’s impossible now. I think Trump will win 2024 for this reason alone. Someone’s going to record something during the primaries, and people will back off. Information is too ubiquitous.

As to Zelensky, he won’t survive the war. He probably will end up dead or in a prison cell. He’s a squish entertainer and had no idea what he was getting in to.


64 posted on 07/13/2023 7:18:27 PM PDT by struggle
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To: FlyingFish

Maybe selected means all transgenders are to report for duty.


65 posted on 07/13/2023 7:19:32 PM PDT by damper99
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To: FlyingFish
Broadly, the call up suggests that the current US active duty force is inadequate in numbers and mismatched to manpower requirements, along with shortages of ammunition. weapons, and equipment.

Notably, almost a decade ago, a Polish Army general staff study projected that Russia was going to invade Ukraine, resulting in a large flow of refugees and the need for Poland to deploy forces into Ukraine. The Poles therefore prepared for a massive refugee flow, expanded their military and upgraded its weaponry, and added Ukrainian language and culture specialists. In effect, with a more realistic view of the future, Poland was ready.

As it was, during the Obama administration, the US and NATO did not do enough to prepare for a Russian invasion of Ukraine and were therefore caught unprepared. True to form, the US military and diplomatic establishments declined to ring the alarm because no one wanted to provoke Putin or embarrass Obama.

When Trump came in, the military got more funding and improved readiness due to his policies, but Ukraine's folly of siding with Hillary and trying to help take down Trump led to a considerable undercurrent of Trump and conservative dislike for the Ukrainian cause.

Currently, the US and NATO are providing a lot of intelligence, logistics, and battle advice to Ukraine. That is why I suggest a need for those specialists. With modern communications, the core of the US and NATO forces involved are not in country but are dispersed across Europe and the US. We are in a proxy war, with a chance to end Putin and his regime and reshape Europe's security for the better.

66 posted on 07/13/2023 7:19:35 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: FlyingFish

Obvious next step in escalation. This imbecile is replaying LBJ’s disastrous policy of gradual escalation in VietNam, hoping he could go to war gradually and no one would notice. Better buckle up, he’s dragging us closer every day.


67 posted on 07/13/2023 7:20:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: qaz123

Its for a total of eight. It could be four or six years active depending on the sign up contract and when one is separated, then it is either two or four years in the IRR.


68 posted on 07/13/2023 7:22:14 PM PDT by grcuster
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To: qaz123
"So, they get to keep on living their socialist lives, under the security blanket provided by US personnel."

Military personnel who are shipped to a hot spot should genuinely be concerned. This is the administration which didn't give a Marine the green light to take out a terrorist. That same terrorist later set off a suicide bomb and killed 12 Marines and a Sailor. Further, there are any number of military hating skunks in Congress who will blabber about matters which could get people in a war zone killed. It's happened before.

69 posted on 07/13/2023 7:36:48 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Rockingham
"Broadly, the call up suggests that the current US active duty force is inadequate in numbers and mismatched to manpower requirements, along with shortages of ammunition. weapons, and equipment."

You are probably correct. The military can't make its enlistment quotas, and U.S. Army trannies who can't pass the physical fitness requirements get a pass. So, it's up to the reservists who still have time on their enlistments to stand before the cannons loaded with grape shot.

70 posted on 07/13/2023 7:39:54 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: EEGator

I think when I joined it a combined 8 year commitment (4+4 or 6+2)


71 posted on 07/13/2023 7:41:12 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Bonemaker

At the end of Desert Storm the Navy send out a message for Reservists to volunteer for 6 months. I volunteered, but I never heard anything more. I think they’re still laughing.


72 posted on 07/13/2023 7:45:31 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

The Fox News report on the call up refers to “support troops” but not combat units, so my guess is that none of them will be facing grape shot or any other kind of cannon or gunfire.


73 posted on 07/13/2023 7:53:28 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: EEGator; Tennessee Nana

I enlisted and got out during the war and I’m pretty sure that it was a 6-year obligation, so your enlistment time plus whatever was left in the IRR to make it total 6 years.


74 posted on 07/13/2023 7:59:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: BenLurkin

75 posted on 07/13/2023 8:14:35 PM PDT by Bobalu (I'm homesick for a country that no longer exists...)
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To: qaz123
And officers are eligible for recall at any time, I think.

An officer with a regular commission has to formally resign his or her commission to avoid being recalled.

Reserve officers do active duty or active reserve time for a few years and complete their service in the IRR; their separation is automatic upon completion of the 8-year total service.

76 posted on 07/13/2023 8:18:39 PM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: FlyingFish

Will Biden call them advisors ?


77 posted on 07/13/2023 8:24:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (We don't need fewer guns - we need fewer criminals.)
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To: FlyingFish

It sounds like they are just filing gaps for certain specialties.

They set up a special command to manage support and training for the Ukrainians - a function that did not exist before. That has to be manned, and those folks likely just serve 3-6 months tours, before they have to be replaced.

So they grab a lot of individuals from here and there to staff it up, and need some flexibility to keep all the holes filled. Depending on what missions they have, they might need an unusual mix of skills (e.g. explosives storage specialists, tank gunnery trainers, customs inspectors, etc.) and have to reach through the Reserves and IRR (non-drilling Reservists) to find each and every type of specialist.

3,000 total is not that much, as compared to the amount of gear to be moved, training programs to conduct, and new headquarters to staff; just to provide the Ukraine the kind of stuff that has been going.

We do this kind of thing for every major Operation, where temporary structures are established, like feeding the Kurds under Saddam’s no-fly zone, or training the Afghan National Army.


78 posted on 07/13/2023 8:29:19 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: FlyingFish

My hunch is these reservists are not combat troops.

These are people with special training to help dismantle and extract the numerous bioweapons operations the Pentagon has been running in Ukraine for a long time.

The U.S. military sees the Russians are going to wipe out Ukraine’s military so there will be a major effort to clean up the crimes against humanity financed and operated by the United States military in Ukraine BEFORE THE U.S. CAN BE HELD CRIMINALLY LIABLE and those Americans directly responsible for it can be tried and hanged.


79 posted on 07/13/2023 8:29:22 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: qaz123
Who are the Selected Reserve?

There are a few levels of reserve forces in the military:

1) Select Reserves - these folks continue to ‘drill’ on a monthly basis and maintain their physical and military readiness. Most are assigned to units that augment active duty units, and also do two weeks of active duty training with these units annually.

2) Individual Ready Reserve - these are individuals that are no longer drill on weekend or assigned to units. They do have military expertise but are 2nd level (down the chain) if needed for recall to active. Since they don’t drill, they can only earn retirement points doing correspondence courses.

80 posted on 07/13/2023 8:49:54 PM PDT by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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