Posted on 07/11/2023 3:56:53 AM PDT by tlozo
The German government has finalized a 700-million-euro ($770.28 million) military aid package for Ukraine, the defense ministry said on Tuesday, the first day of a NATO summit in Vilnius.
The package includes two Patriot launchers from Bundeswehr stock, 40 additional Marder infantry fighting vehicles, 25 additional 1 A5 main battle tanks, as well as five Bergepanzer 2 tanks, the ministry said.
It includes an additional 20,000 rounds of artillery ammunition and 5,000 rounds of 155 mm smoke ammunition, the ministry added.
The package “serves Ukraine’s priorities: air defense, tanks, artillery ... with it, we are making an important contribution to strengthening Ukraine’s sustainability,” defense minister Boris Pistorius said in a statement.
Aren’t you the FReeper who mocks “Russian FReepers” for their sources?
You’re hanging your hopes on an unattributed piece from Al Arabia?
Nice…
“This news seems to indicate that something has drastically changed about Russian capabilities and what can be expected from them.”
I don’t take much from this move, to me it just shows that we can keep dumping weapons into Ukraine, and Russia can keep destroying them. Basically, Russia is producing weapons in factories and sending them to Ukraine for combat, we’re ‘producing’ weapons by emptying munitions warehouses and sending them to Ukraine for disposal, while negotiating with Drag Queens, the Chinese, and now Geriatrics, to try to figure out how to start producing weapons again.
Weird rant.
“Weird rant.”
I was giving an update on the latest production news (I admit adding the Drag Queens, since it’s just a matter of time before DEI is actually in the defense contracts). Our dependence and China is well documented, and Raytheon has admitted to having to re-hire people who are now geriatrics to restart Stinger production.
My point being that if we going to go on a World War 3 rampage, which is where all this crap is leading to, it would sure be nice if we tried PREPARING FOR IT first.
Who knows what your weird post was about.
It is a thing of beauty when a comment can be so vacuous.
While I might from time to time disagree with EEGator of BobL, I found their comments clear, understandable and even justified.
This suggests something weird.... Who knows?
It was straightforward and he knows it. That’s why I didn’t bother responding to him.
No criticism of you, friend. The pretense of “Who knows what your weird post was about” was answered by a third party “who.”
Its original source is from Reuters.
Berlin finalises 700-mln-euro military aid package for Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/berlin-finalises-700-mln-euro-military-aid-package-ukraine-2023-07-11/
Lol, fair enough.
“This suggests something weird.... Who knows?”
If it gets to the point that he’s just here to annoy us, then he’ll likely join the 3 who got zotted on this thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4166516/posts?page=206
(TimberRattler, Amnestynone, and Uncle Lonny)
When I get PMs from people who are sick of posting here, because of all the personal attacks, then no more hostages for me.
Posted this morning --- "Zelenskyy outraged after Biden rejects Ukraine's NATO membership: 'unprecedented and absurd',"
Source: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4167016/posts
It seems your stance, "while negotiating with Drag Queens, the Chinese, and now Geriatrics, to try to figure out how to start producing weapons again," is very apt.
Since Clinton and forward to today's $32 plus trillion USD in debt, the "peace dividend" has been squandered and now the West, not just the US, is finding itself and its de-indutrialzation a big problem. We've got expensive "new" weapons but precious little remaining stock of conventional weapons according to gaffes from the Resident Geriatric-in-Chief.
Backing away from debates about sit-rep and all, this seems rather like a poker game in which one side raises the stakes, the opposing side sees the bet and raises, and so on. The only remaining question is which side has the actual industrial resources to continue to raise the stakes. MAD is the outside border, no matter whose side someone is on.
So, will the de-industrialized West be able to match the industrializing non-West by "ramping up?" Time will tell. I am not enthused by the prospect of the Resident Geriatric-in-Chief and the European equivalents asking for more chips 'on account' because the banks, not the betters, are always the winners and the 'house' of reality makes the stakes in the end. Tick tock.
I think you meant this for BobL.
I meant it for the thread, in general. If and where you disagree, have at it. And still, best wishes.
“I don’t fully grasp “zot,” being somewhat of a newbie”
Basically, there are some basic rules, with the most basic being to refrain from personal attacks. On Ukraine, just like most everywhere else, personal attacks is about all the Left has to defend their position, so they call people “Russian Agents”, “Putin Puffers”, “Putin Cultists”. JR doesn’t like that, and I don’t blame him. So they’re either given a time out, or permanently banned here at FR.
My own conclusion is that people who engage in nasty personal attacks actually hate conservatives and would rather not have to even post here - but for some reason (maybe employment?), they feel that they have no choice. I base that on the fact that, generally, only Leftists get nasty when they have to support their positions with facts, since many times (perhaps most of the time) their position is based on emotions (or employment) and so the facts simply don’t support them.
Have they ever thought about providing aid to their own paper tiger military?
will be funny when german banking goes bankrupt needing bailout.it’s what they desrve for supporting this procy war on russia. It’s time for both sides to stop dying!
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