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The US will provide cluster munitions to Ukraine as part of a new military aid package: AP sources
AP ^ | 7/6/23 | AP

Posted on 07/06/2023 7:02:36 PM PDT by hardspunned

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To: meyer

Ukraine has not targeted civilians during this war — Russia has.

And your statement “Kyiv should be levelled” shows you have no idea about the history of the place — Kyiv is the birthplace of the Eastern Slavs (the Rus) - whether the “White”i.e. West based Eastern Slavs (the Bialo-rus i.e White Russia) or the “Black” i.e. Northern Rus - i.e. Muscowy or the “Red” i.e. southern Rus i.e. Ukraine.

Muscowy isn’t going to nuke that


41 posted on 07/07/2023 3:22:55 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

No, they were far from total commitment before the massive NATO escalation. Their initial plan worked. The Ukes were dead in water then, just like the counteroffensive today. There was relatively little collateral damage and the peace deal was negotiated in Turkey. Then the US put the kybosh on peace and the Russians settled into the areas of Donbas they had originally planned to keep, where they remain. The Russians NEVER had any intention of occupying Ukraine. I did miss NATO preventing the arms buildup up in Belarus. Did the rainbow warriors scare the Russian nukes out of Belarus while I was sleeping? I have no idea how much or little additional Uke territory the Russians need to solidify their NATO conventional frontier. I’m guessing not much or they would not have already left it in the first place,


42 posted on 07/07/2023 3:41:49 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MeganC

You are a psychopath.


43 posted on 07/07/2023 3:45:16 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: hardspunned

The US had a choice. They could not supply cluster munitions, even though Russia already used them against Ukraine civilian targets, or they could. Ukraine wants them as a ‘temporary’ substitute for air power, that the US doesn’t want to deliver for fear the Ukrainians will become too powerful. The cluster munitions, rocket based, are about ‘cleaning out’ the trenches and fixed positions of Russia.

This will likely prolong the war and agony of the average person. Up next, air power.


44 posted on 07/07/2023 3:55:41 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

There can’t be more than one or two additional reckless NATO escalations before the proxy gloves come off and the DC generated WWIII becomes a reality.


45 posted on 07/07/2023 4:02:36 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: tennmountainman

This has been the goal of the deep state, military, RINO’s, neocons, Democrats, warcons and globalists since they started meddling in the Ukraine the last decade. Trouble is they are all so blindingly stupid they won’t be able to contain it to a conventional conflict and will sh*t themselves when it goes nuclear. They have no coherent strategy other than we need another American war.


46 posted on 07/07/2023 5:56:48 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Cronos

You should probably consider getting your news from somewhere other than the government-controlled mainstream media. They’ve been lying about this war, just as they did about the stolen election, the “Russia-russia-russia” claims, covid, and just about everything else for the last few decades.

Ukraine is not even a NATO member, and thus should receive NOTHING from us.

But I suppose, the US has to protect their investment - our government installed their government in 2014, and we have several bio-labs in Ukraine that we wish to protect.


47 posted on 07/07/2023 6:15:54 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: meyer

I don’t read the government controlled media.

Ukraine has not targeted civilians during this war — Russia has.


48 posted on 07/07/2023 6:58:29 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: hardspunned

You act like this is NATO. It’s not. It’s not about NATO. Honestly, it’s really about Money Laundering, IMHO. NATO is nothing but a financial burden on the US taxpayer and cold war relic.

George Soros, eGOP, and DNC got together to rob the US treasury by diverting money to Ukraine for ‘aid’ and then having it go to Ukrainian ‘needs’. That went to Ukrainian corporations, who paid politicians to ‘children’ and then back to US via ‘Delaware’ Trust funds.

Then throw in some real fear. Fear that comes from Russian invasion over the last 100 years of multiple countries, with the Rapes, tortures, and political puppets, and people have real fear. Give a few nuclear weapon and nuclear capability transfers to say, Iran and North Korea, and make people a bit more nervous. Have the Russians then threaten Poland again, and BOOM! you have them doing everything they can to help Ukraine (I am not sure Poland even likes Ukraine).

Russia should have tried different tactic. They should have outed the dirty politicians and money laundering. Putin should have called out the Ukrainian-US politician kick back schemes, and shown it to the world. Putin should have had George Soros become answerable for his WWII crimes as a NAZI. Russian should have ‘disagreed’ with Poland, but not threatened them. They should have NOT invaded or threatened former client states. They should have considered stamping out the graft and corruption in Russia, that left your military wanting when you needed it.

Frankly, it’s a stupid war with stupid prizes. One of those prizes could be a nuclear exchange. You can bet the Democrats, Soros, Zelinski (who is Soros puppet) are going to continue to profit from the war and the risk. Russian people arent the problem, the poor farmers in Ukraine aren’t the problem, neither are the Polish people trying to make a living. The problem are the corrupt elites who don’t care about the ‘little’ people and would engage in Nuclear war to distract from their failures and corruption.

Russia and the United States people aren’t as different as you think. The leaders are just as ruthless and careless about the citizens of both right now. That’s the way I see it. It’s not a NATO thing.


49 posted on 07/07/2023 7:07:36 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

Uniparty, DC has illegitimately turned NATO into its corrupt European thug, the muscle to back up the DC grifters.


50 posted on 07/07/2023 7:55:47 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

“Uniparty, DC has illegitimately turned NATO into its corrupt European thug, the muscle to back up the DC grifters.”

NATO really isn’t anything without the US. The European leaders have said this much. The Uniparty is the problem, expose them and much of these problems disappear.


51 posted on 07/07/2023 8:14:51 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Sirius Lee

“You are a psychopath.”

I don’t slavishly worship a runt dictator who predates on weaker countries and kidnaps children for God knows what. I just want him and his supporters to behave themselves or die.

Either is acceptable to me.

But if it takes killing Ruzzians to secure peace then so be it. If that irks you then that’s just a bonus.


52 posted on 07/07/2023 8:19:29 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Nah, you’re just a garden variety psychopath. Someone should tell you and I just did.


53 posted on 07/07/2023 8:21:58 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Sirius Lee

“Nah, you’re just a garden variety psychopath. Someone should tell you and I just did.”

Now go tell mommy what a big man you are.


54 posted on 07/07/2023 8:43:55 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Nah, you’re just a garden variety psychopath. Someone should tell you and I just did.

I second that. That one cheers death, blood and pain. Not all of the Ukie Yipyappers are like that, but a few are and that’s one of them. It’s sick.

55 posted on 07/07/2023 8:45:42 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: MeganC

Maybe a psychopath like you should consider some religious or psychiatric counseling.

A post such as that gives people pause when considering your stability.


56 posted on 07/07/2023 8:54:25 AM PDT by dforest
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To: hardspunned

How is this an escalation if Russia has been using cluster bombs on civilians since early in the invasion and Ukraine has even used some cluster bombs?


57 posted on 07/07/2023 10:42:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dforest

If I was really a psychopath then you’d be a special kind of stupid for provoking me, wouldn’t you?


58 posted on 07/07/2023 12:26:20 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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