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HOW MANY UKRAINIANS HAVE CLOSE RELATIVES AND FRIENDS WHO WERE INJURED / KILLED BY THE RUSSIAN INVASION: RESULTS OF A TELEPHONE SURVEY CONDUCTED ON MAY 26 - JUNE 5, 2023
KYIV INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE of SOCIOLOGY ^ | 29 June 23 | Anton Hrushetsky

Posted on 06/30/2023 1:37:20 PM PDT by delta7

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Appalling statistics, by Kiev themselves. Wake up America, the Biden war cheerleaders are lying to us….but that’s what they do.

Be sure to view the detailed graphs, appalling, the West has much blood on their hands, post war figures will no doubt show just how badly the West was duped.

1 posted on 06/30/2023 1:37:20 PM PDT by delta7
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For those that like to be spoon fed: a summary.

“63% of Ukrainians now say they know at least one close relative or friend who have died in the war, with the average number being three.

This is a huge increase from the last survey in February, which found only 17% of Ukrainians reported a loss, while the figure in September of 2022 was just 9%. This firmly suggests the Bakhmut Meat Grinder did its job and that the Ukrainian counter-offensive is going as poorly as previously thought.”

“Also of note is that deaths are concentrated regionally: 69% in the West, and just 52% in the East. This implies heavier losses from the main bastions of Ukrainian Nationalists. The implications of that are pretty obvious.”

https://t.me/intelslava/49494

The Western MSM gig is up, calculating from current demographics, less than 28 million Ukies are left in Ukraine, doing the math shows HUGE losses. The calculations show genocide, and worse, by the Zelensky government and the West themselves. Appalling.


2 posted on 06/30/2023 1:44:52 PM PDT by delta7
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Dear Lord have mercy; it is time for this bloodbath to stop.


3 posted on 06/30/2023 1:47:08 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: delta7

More:
“ cockroach alerts
GAO, M1 TANKS: Status of Proposed Overhaul Program (11.04.96)
GAO, Army and Marine Corps M198 Howitzer: Maintenance Problems Are Not Severe Enough to Accelerate Replacement System (27.12.95)
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.
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GAO, Weapon System Sustainment* (10.11.22)

GAO examined 49 aircraft and found that only four met their annual mission capable goal in a majority of the years from fiscal years 2011 through 2021. As shown below, 26 aircraft did not meet their annual mission capable goal in any fiscal year. The mission capable rate—the percentage of total time when the aircraft can fly and perform at least one mission—is used to assess the health and readiness of an aircraft fleet....
*”sustainment” is a malaprop. The term discarded by this illiterate technical writer is “maintenance”. Indeed, the expense of equipment maintenance and maintenance of effort to repair or install equipment components is the only subject of this 352 pp report.
CRS,Hypersonic Weapons: Background and Issues for Congress (13.02.23), 36 pp including cover

...At present, the Department of
Defense (DOD) has not established any programs of record for hypersonic weapons, suggesting that it may not have
approved either mission requirements for the systems or long-term funding plans...
GAO, F-35 Program: DOD Needs Better Accountability for Global Spare Parts and Reporting Losses Worth Millions (23.05.23), 35 pp including cover

The Department of Defense anticipates spending $1.7 trillion over the life of its F-35 aircraft program. DOD owns certain F-35 spare parts that contractors manage. But DOD doesn’t account for or oversee the parts. This is in part because various DOD offices and contractors haven’t agreed on whether the spare parts should be categorized as government-furnished property....
DODIG, Management Advisory: Maintenance Concerns for the Army’s Prepositioned Stock-5 Equipment Designated for Ukraine (23.05.23)

...While this advisory focuses on the condition of equipment identified for use by Ukrainian Armed Forces, the advisory also provides insights into larger [USEUCOM, NATO, CEGE] issues with the maintenance of all APS-5 [and APS-2] equipment...
press corpse
NY Yella Cake, In Rush to Arm Ukraine, Weapons Are Bought but Not Delivered, or Too Broken to Use (19.06.23)

...Since Russia invaded last year, Western allies have sent Ukraine tens of billions of dollars worth of [AP-2] weapons. As of last week, the United States alone had committed about $40 billion worth of [AP-5] military aid (and more in financial and humanitarian assistance), and European allies have also contributed tens of billions. In addition, Ukraine has spent billions of dollars of its own on the private arms market.
Many of the transfers from Western allies have involved modern weapons like American air defense systems that have proven highly effective against Russian drones and missiles. But in other cases allies have provided stockpiled equipment that, at best, needed extensive overhauls [”sustainment” ALERT].

As much of 30 percent of Kyiv’s arsenal is under repair at any given time—a high rate, defense experts said, for a military that needs every weapon it can get for its developing counteroffensive....”

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/ukraines-zaluzhny-is-back-and-asking-for-more-weapons.html#comments

Those that boo hoo the Moon, their linked information is from Western sources, I encourage all western war cheerleaders to read the links for an accurate appraisal of the situation. Don’t argue with me, argue with the facts.

The Biden war cheerleaders are flat out lying to the public. Don’t get sucked in.


4 posted on 06/30/2023 1:52:46 PM PDT by delta7
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https://convertcase.net/

So you don’t have to post THREADS WITH TITLES IN ALL CAPS

Paste a title, hit capitalize, copy converted text


5 posted on 06/30/2023 2:00:25 PM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Rest is already underway! <<<)
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So you don’t have to post THREADS WITH TITLES IN ALL CAPS
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The article title was in caps, copied and pasted, sorry I hurt your tender feelings….you probably didn’t go to the article and see the graphs, your loss.


6 posted on 06/30/2023 2:34:56 PM PDT by delta7
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My God! This is almost beyond belief. But it appears to be true.

This needs to be ended now and no, I do not want to hear lame bs like all Putin has to do is withdraw his troops because there is no way in hell he will do that at this point, especially since he's winning this thing, and winning big.

If this continues another six months to a year, there will be no native young men and women left in Ukraine to feed into this globalist-provoked meat grinder.

Keep in mind that 8 MILLION Ukrainians have fled their country since the war began. . . and the pool of available fresh cannon fodder declines daily.

Instead of fueling and thereby prolonging this death machine, all Western leaders must immediately cut off weapons and cash to that gay dancing, grifting scumbag and then drag him and his murderous, Russian counterpart to the table to end this now.

7 posted on 06/30/2023 2:47:45 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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The calculations show genocide, and worse, by the Zelensky government and the West themselves. Appalling.

Hi. Long time listener, first time caller.

Who is firing the shells and rockets that are killing Ukrainians.

I’ll hang up and listen.

8 posted on 06/30/2023 2:48:49 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: delta7

all caps is harder to read but go ahead and be ignurnt


9 posted on 06/30/2023 2:51:22 PM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Rest is already underway! <<<)
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To: Gunslingr3

Ukrainians


10 posted on 06/30/2023 3:29:04 PM PDT by struggle
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All Putin has to do is remove his troops and stop the attacks.

Period.

11 posted on 06/30/2023 3:30:22 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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"All Putin has to do is remove his troops and stop the attacks. Period."

Guess you didn't fully read my comment where I said,"I do not want to hear lame bs like all Putin has to do is withdraw his troops because there is no way in hell he will do that at this point, especially since he's winning this thing, and winning big.""

It's obvious he's not going to withdraw so what's the point of even saying it?

This is going to be settled either on the battlefield or in a boardroom. If it's settled on the battlefield Ukraine likely dies.

There will be no Russian withdrawal in the foreseeable future.

12 posted on 06/30/2023 3:42:52 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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To: struggle

“Who is firing the shells and rockets that are killing Ukrainians.”

“Ukrainians”

CORRECT, roughly 14,000 of them in Donbass. Why is why Russia was forced to go in to put an end to it.


13 posted on 06/30/2023 4:56:33 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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Guess you didn't fully read my comment where I said,...

Oh I did.


14 posted on 06/30/2023 5:04:11 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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CORRECT, roughly 14,000 of them in Donbass.

There's that same 'ol lie again.

15 posted on 06/30/2023 5:04:51 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

“There’s that same ‘ol lie again.”

You can bitch about the 14,000 number to Boutros Boutros Golly, or whoever runs the UN these days (you would know, I’m not into that crap), it’s THEIR NUMBER.


16 posted on 06/30/2023 5:07:34 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: Timber Rattler

leftist idealism

sprung this trap

more of it

won’t get them out of it

that’s the nature

of 3rd way liberalism

insanity


17 posted on 06/30/2023 5:19:58 PM PDT by Firehath
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If the blood shed is to be stopped why don’t you tell your side to stop it since your side started it? Ukraine did not ask to be invaded and I doubt you really care about Ukranian deaths. Do you Ivan?


18 posted on 06/30/2023 5:44:20 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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If the blood shed is to be stopped why don’t you tell your side to stop it since your side started it?
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This war started in 2014 when the Ukies broke the Minsk Agreements and started shelling Donetsk and Luhansk, ethnic Russian provinces.

The pro-Russian and Pro-Ukie sides aren’t changing their minds. Both feel justified in their actions. The US needs to take charge and head up negotiations -not supply weapons to prolong the blood shed and insure Ukraine’s further demise.

Ukraine has been reduced to a western welfare nation, fully dependent on western aid for survival. Fine and dandy till the West is bled dry.


19 posted on 06/30/2023 6:31:51 PM PDT by delta7
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I don’t see you denying that your side is Russia. Your side is going to be bled dry before the Ukraine and the west will be. That is very obvious. How do we negotiate with parties who never live up to agreements. It is your side that does not live up to agreements. You don’t even live up to migratory bird treaties, so why would you live up to any agreement we make? Try again Ivan.


20 posted on 06/30/2023 6:37:33 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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