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DeSantis’s call to eliminate four federal agencies was the subject of a long and acrimonious thread yesterday, a lot of which was posts criticizing DeSantis or criticizing Trump. If you feel a need for more of that, I suggest you go vent it there: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4164239/posts

I want to focus on one specific subject: eliminating the Department of Commerce. The three others have previously been targeted by conservative candidates, understandably, but what’s the objection to Commerce? It generally tries to do things that help American business. You could always shut it down and redistribute its functions to other agencies, but that wouldn’t change anything important. What functions is Commerce currently performing that should be eliminated entirely?

1 posted on 06/30/2023 11:44:12 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Not NPR?

Will "they" use the same tactics "they" used on Disney?

He can't even eliminate WOKE in his own state.

35 posted on 06/30/2023 12:11:41 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Trump accomplished more for America in one 4yr term than any President in your lifetime)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Why does DOE need 16,000 employees and why does the IRS need 87,000 more employees?
37 posted on 06/30/2023 12:12:52 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Good question.

I don’t know much about the commerce history.

But I do know I have a tendency to go back to the original Constitution and Washington’s cabinet. I tend to think there is too much. Just adding a “secretary” begs having a whole department with their own building, etc. more waste.


38 posted on 06/30/2023 12:14:20 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Even if the executive branch cuts the federal workforce, what makes you thing congress will reduce the spending?

Oldest tax racket on the books - cut a federal outlay, but keep the taxes coming in. More money to launder back to the campaign.


39 posted on 06/30/2023 12:17:23 PM PDT by fruser1
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With the current crop of career politicians, it will be extremely difficult.

Maybe start by moving agencies out of DC and disbursing them around the country.

That would break them up and cause many employees to quit rather than move.

Then start closing them down.


42 posted on 06/30/2023 12:22:00 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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Without legislation both are pandering! The president lost the power of impoundment in 1974.

“....
Impoundment is an act by a President of the United States of not spending money that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to exercise the power of impoundment in 1801. The power was available to all presidents up to and including Richard Nixon, and was regarded as a power inherent to the office. The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 was passed in response to perceived abuse of the power under President Nixon. The Act removed that power, and Train v. City of New York (whose facts predate the 1974 Act, but which was argued before the U.S. Supreme Court after its passage), closed potential loopholes in the 1974 Act. The president’s ability to indefinitely reject congressionally approved spending was thus removed.
.....”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impoundment_of_appropriated_funds


43 posted on 06/30/2023 12:24:18 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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Ron DeSantis says he would eliminate four federal agencies if elected president

How?

44 posted on 06/30/2023 12:25:19 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Stupid people believe a POTUS an eliminate a federal agency.


45 posted on 06/30/2023 12:27:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

As a Congressman, in the House from 2013-2018, you served only during Republican majorities in that chamber. Why didn’t you push for that then? Also, the 114th, and 115th Congressional sessions were controlled by the Republicans in both Houses, so why didn’t you push that agenda then? You were gone in the 116th Congress, running for Governor when the Democrats took over the House. You missed your chance Ronnie. And we’re to believe that now, you’d do as President, what you could have attempted to accomplish, but chose not to when Republicans controlled Congress? I might have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night.


46 posted on 06/30/2023 12:28:08 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Standard GOP election propaganda...
Same old song for 60 years...


49 posted on 06/30/2023 12:30:46 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Proposals to eliminate the Commerce department have been bi-partisan. Rick Perry proposed it, and so did Obama. As to which parts of Commerce should actually be abolished, not relocated, I vote for the Minority Business Development Agency, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, and the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research.


50 posted on 06/30/2023 12:34:35 PM PDT by devere
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I would settle for the IRS eliminated but to do that it will take changing the tax code.

Since that won’t happen, the IRS needs overhauled. Last two years I spent close to 10 hours on the phone (waiting) to get a simple question clarified or something corrected.


52 posted on 06/30/2023 12:37:40 PM PDT by Nifty
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According to http://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/five-good-reasons-close-down-the-department-commerce , it duplicates some of what other departments already do, among other things. It’s quite an eye-opening article, there’s much more than duplication going on that doesn’t appear to do anything but waste tax dollars.


55 posted on 06/30/2023 12:48:46 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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Yup. Several years ago, I read a reasoned proposal eliminating all departments and agencies created since 1960.


57 posted on 06/30/2023 1:01:46 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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Ron DeSantis says he would eliminate four federal agencies if elected president

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxVfV5Lby3u-m51xWHvBGEs-vLeczntIIt


62 posted on 06/30/2023 1:36:04 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Commerce regulates far too much that should be left to the states. That said, there still has to be a tax collection function, even though the IRS should be slashed; there is still a small role for the Feds in legitimate interstate commerce; energy too should be largely left to the states with a little national security element.

I can’t find a reason for the Dept of Ed to continue doing anything.


66 posted on 06/30/2023 2:08:12 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Who is “we”?

The little ingrate would learn what vested interests means. Congress refused to get rid of Section 230, and that involved only a little money passing under the table.


69 posted on 06/30/2023 3:30:53 PM PDT by odawg
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Yeh sure. 🙄


70 posted on 06/30/2023 3:53:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Only 4? There has got to be dozens in just the first 100 days.


72 posted on 06/30/2023 6:46:36 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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