Posted on 06/24/2023 8:53:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
It was nothing more then a protest. It’s just the western media that made it out to be a coup.
Serious question, if the Russian military is mostly conscripted and they don’t pay well what does Wagner make vs the worldwide going rate for mercenaries?
I mean I had a contact pulling in six figures doing security work in Iraq and Afghanistan and there’s no way the Russians are paying tens of thousands Wagner members that rate.
Maybe someone will answer your “salary” question, but consider this — if your’re a hardened criminal facing a long jail sentence or even death, and you were offered to join Wagner in exchange for freedom after a stint in Ukraine, would you take the offer?
Lucky Belarus - now Wagner is their problem.
There are hundreds and hundreds of scenarios flying around the internet.
There are specific official statements by the Kremlin spox:
1) Putin worked at the Kremlin all day, and not much of that was talking to Lukashenko.
2) The Wagner people who want to serve Russia will be brought into the MoD via the same contracts conscripts are offered at the end of their terms.
3) Prigo will exile to Belarus. There is an odd lack of mention of his family. Or bodyguards.
That is pretty much all from the Kremlin. Prigo had a statement noting no blood had been spilled during the action, which pretty much erases talk of helicopters being shot down.
In a very general way, if he was being paid by MI6, they did not get much of a return on their investment.
there’s the question of how long he will live, in exile or otherwise, after crossing Putin. When you aim for the king, you’d better not miss, and he missed.
“”It’s just the western media that made it out to be a coup.””
I do not believe most of what is reported about Ukraine, other than the massive Obama / Biden Crime Regime funneling billions to themselves and others.
“However, Belarus is essentially Russia, and it wouldn’t be shocking if something happened to this guy later.”
Yep, my thoughts too. It’s up to Putin to decide how safe Prigozhin will be in Belarus, so it would be smart for Prigozhin to behave nicely now towards Putin...
Another expert rambles on and says nothing. Must get paid by the word.
“… This order was given probably due to the lack of manpower; this wasn’t an army marching on the city in the likes of Napoleon or Nazi Germany. It was perhaps no more than 5,000 men, which is inadequate to lay siege to a metropolis.…”
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And those men would have to be continually RESUPPLIED with food, gasoline and sundries. One significant battle and their ammunition would have been expended with no logistics trains available to provide more. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED OR CAPTURED IN SHORT ORDER… and their experienced officers knew that.. The “party” was therefore ended before they encountered that certain eventuality.
It is not over
Generally, before the war....Wagner people were making around 80,000 to 250,000 Rubles a month($956 to $3,000).
I should note, Wagner contractors aren’t paid to do technical work...it’s pure up-and-up mercenary work.
I also should note that 250,000 Rubles was a fair sum of money (at least before the war started).
Five hundred spins, five hundred ways to say “oops” in five languages.
Wagner pulled a fast one on Biden. He took the money and ran.
A protest?
Lol.
Maybe Putin wanted Wagner broken up with some of them to be contracted into the regular Russian army. But first he wanted to weed out any who might be disloyal - that would be the 5000 who marched on Moscow.
Imagine the Wagner group just driving down the highway to Moscow when the Russians open up with their aircraft strafing and bombing them.
There was no coup. Just propaganda. If Prigozhin really tried a coup he is a dead man. It would just be how he would be killed but I expect slow enough that he would regret crossing Putin.
No one is debating the helicopters and a fixed wing plane being shot down, or that 12 crew were killed. Prigozhin's statement specifically said "In this time, we did not spill a single drop of blood of our fighters." He's not saying no one was killed, but that no Wagner troops were killed.
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