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To: mbrfl
I refuted your characterization of Trump as pro-abortion. Trump has spoken out often against late-term and “post-term” abortions and more recently has proposed a federal ban on such abortions. By definition, that makes him anti-abortion. I also explained to you Trump’s comments to Feinstein. He told her to put some language into a bill that he knew would never reach his desk. That proves nothing.

You refuted nothing.

Trump might be against late-term abortion, but he is also against banning abortion. That makes him pro-abortion.

Asking the #1 gun grabber in the US Senate to put an assault weapons ban into legislation means he was willing to sign it. You need to read more about what was going on at the time. Trump was willing to sign the bill.

Just because YOU claim it would never reach his desk does not disprove his intention to ban assault weapons, which he could do in his next term by working with the Democrats.

275 posted on 06/28/2023 4:53:12 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Trump is clearly NOT pro abort and has the best record of any politician in coming against the evils of the abortion lobby. He is also the only Pres to attend the march for life. His explanation of how he came to be pro life is an excellent story.

To characterize his bump stock mistake as anti 2nd amendment or him as a gun grabber is even a worse slander.

You should be ashamed of what you're doing, but it's doubtful you have the capacity to see that.

276 posted on 06/28/2023 5:20:46 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“You refuted nothing.”

Nonsense. The problem with you is you’re playing word games, and I’m not having it. You deliberately give simplistic characterizations of Trump’s position on abortion. By saying he’s pro-abortion, you’re implying that he’s in favor of abortions across the board. He’s clearly not. Trump supports allowing abortion in some situations and not in others. So did Reagan and so does DeSantis. Reagan supported allowing it for rape, incest and threats of life to the mother, and DeSantis just signed a bill that continues to allow abortion on demand, prior to six weeks and up to 15 weeks in cases of rape, incest and human trafficking. Would you ever characterize them as “pro-abortion”? Of course not.

If you were interested in telling more of the truth rather than leaving parts out, you could describe all three - Trump, Reagan and DeSantis - as being “pro-abortion” in some instances and anti-abortion, in others. But you don’t. Instead you engage in the same sort of lies by omission we see from the MSM when they don’t report facts that would give a fuller picture.

If your aim is to educate and inform then you would be consistent with your use of terminology. If propaganda is your aim, then you would selectively apply simplistic terminology that is designed to mislead rather than paint the full picture - which is what you’re currently doing. Peddle your propaganda somewhere else, because you’re wasting your time with me. I see through it.


285 posted on 06/28/2023 11:59:40 AM PDT by mbrfl
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