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To: mbrfl
As far as “negotiating a nationwide abortion limit that everyone could agree with”, where do you get the idea that any such deal, unlikely as it is, would prohibit states from passing their own, stricter limits?

Because the only way the left would go along with more than 6-week limit (which Trump thinks is "too harsh) would be to protect abortion with federal law, which is what Biden is trying to do.

As far as Trump asking Feinstein to add an assault weapons ban to the school safety legislation, I don’t know what you’re referring to.

President Trump Asks Dianne Feinstein to Add ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban to School Safety Bill

I guess you are not well informed.

Did you know that Trump, In his book The America We Deserve, published in 2000:

“I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s internet technology we should be able to tell within 72 hours if a potential gun owner has a record.”

Bottom line: You support a pro-abortion, anti-gun leftist

257 posted on 06/26/2023 2:29:48 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Because the only way the left would go along with more than 6-week limit (which Trump thinks is “too harsh) would be to protect abortion with federal law, which is what Biden is trying to do.”

Well I guess it won’t happen then, which goes to my original point of such a deal being unlikely. Trump gave no indication of what he would or wouldn’t accept for such a bill. His claim that he could negotiate a bill that everyone will be happy with is a pipe-dream but it shows a desire on his part to find a compromise - not to impose one..

“Bottom line: You support a pro-abortion, anti-gun leftist”

If Trump is pro-abortion, then he’s a pro-abortionist who enabled Roe v Wade to be overturned, and a pro-abortionist who wants to ban late-term and “post-term” abortions. What discredits your commentary is your penchant for simplistic black and white assessments of people you don’t like. Hence, “Trump is pro-abortion” rather than “Aside from wanting a federal ban on late term and post-term abortions, Trump believes in letting the people decide the abortion issue, not the courts”. The latter more accurately conveys Trump’s position on abortion and could hardly be called pro-abortion. But calling Trump pro-abortion is much simpler and dispenses with having to deal with all those pesky details.

And as far as Trump’s “support” for an assault-weapon ban, I assumed you were referring to the comments you linked to, but wanted to make sure, because those comments don’t support your claim (i.e. that Trump supports an assault weapons ban), and going back to comments made in 2000 doesn’t change that.

From the article:

“Sen. Feinstein talked about her bill and described the AR-15 as one of “the latest and newest weapons” to hit our streets. However, Eugene Stoner designed the AR-15 in the 1950s and Armalite began producing the gun during the 1960s. Are weapons from 60 years ago now considered “latest and newest”?

Nonetheless, Trump listened to Feinstein, heard from a few more gun control proponents—including Rep. Ted Deutch (D-FL)—then looked back at Feinstein and told her she should add her bill to the Manchin/Toomey bill for consideration.”

I remember when this incident happened, following the clamor from the left for more gun control after the Parkland school shooting. I understood Trump’s comments for what they were. The left was attempting to use the shooting as a political weapon against Trump. It was in that context that Trump hosted a round table with lawmakers at the White House and made those comments.

His “reasonable” demeanor with Democrats totally deflated their PR campaign. Trump had a Republican House and Senate at the time that was never going to pass the kind of gun legislation Feinstein and the rest of her party were trying to pass. You don’t think Trump understood that? He told Feinstein to put the language into a bill that he knew had no chance of passing.

Now, 5 years later, you go searching for the soundbite that will “prove” that Trump wants to ban assault weapons, while ignore all the pro-2nd amendment words and actions that indicate otherwise.


259 posted on 06/26/2023 3:28:34 PM PDT by mbrfl
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