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To: TBP
The initial data suggests that at least one Republican, Mr. DeSantis, in the crowded field is likely to do better than Mr. Trump in the battleground states.

In my fairly wide network of friends, GOPers (previous Trump voters, all), and Indies ( roughly half Trump voters in 16) simply do not want Mister Trump to run again.

Much of it stems from tiredness of cringing at Mister Trumps lack of impulse control. These folks like quite a bit of what Trump did (not all, of course) but they want the same determination and pro-American policies from someone with enough character and wisdom that they can defend and respect.

The cringe, of course, keeps on coming. Imagine trying to decide for whom to vote in the GOP primary, and the loud candidate says such nonsensical, magical thinking things as he can end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.

Trump. His own worst enemy.

136 posted on 06/24/2023 9:05:59 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: Seaplaner

We are past the personality point now.


140 posted on 06/24/2023 9:21:39 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: Seaplaner

Suppose you could get a Trump type with discipline, self-control, an ability to troll the left when necessary, and a record of standing up to them and defeating them. Without Trump’s personal baggage, but a loving, faithful marriage.

Now suppose that candidate just got through winning his state by 20 points.

Would you support such a candidate? Would that candidate have a chance of winning? I think the answer is yes.


214 posted on 06/25/2023 8:50:56 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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