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The case for DeSantis over Trump
The Washington Times ^ | June 24, 2023 | Michael McKenna

Posted on 06/24/2023 6:29:35 PM PDT by TBP

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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Sorry, if Trump gets it in 24, DeSantis is the 28 Front Runner by a mile.
121 posted on 06/24/2023 8:43:12 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: Night Hides Not

Baris debunked these polls


122 posted on 06/24/2023 8:45:48 PM PDT by DMD13
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To: DoughtyOne
Because Trump backed a bad Romney House for RNC Chair, and the gop-e think that this is a debate, instead of the cold( lukewarm now) Civil War that it is.
123 posted on 06/24/2023 8:46:02 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: John S Mosby

Public Opinion Strategies is comprised of DeSantis’ pollsters.

These are push polls!


124 posted on 06/24/2023 8:47:45 PM PDT by DMD13
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To: Alberta's Child

It’s going to be damn near impossible for Trump or any Republican to win. Nothing has been done about the systems they used to win last time


125 posted on 06/24/2023 8:49:49 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cowboyusa

Nah. DeSantis is spoiled milk even now, well past his sell by date. The more one sees of him, the less likable and palatable he becomes. Moreover, his performative woke culture war sponsored by Con, Inc. and its organs (TPUSA, Real Daily Wire), will have long been lost- frankly, well past redemption even now- the same parties heralding this war also promoted the disastrous homosexual and sexdeviant tolerance that led to this. Meatball is a spoiler- nothing more- a bland and colorless factotum elevated far above his natural station at the behest of evil Uniparty establishment tyrants. He will never be nominee nor President- thanks be to heaven.


126 posted on 06/24/2023 8:52:42 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: cowboyusa

If Trump picks another go along to get along like pence that cements my belief that he has learned nothing from his prior awful pics


127 posted on 06/24/2023 8:52:46 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: mikegreenwell39

9k, deadender.


128 posted on 06/24/2023 8:53:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: cowboyusa

Please clarify.


129 posted on 06/24/2023 8:56:13 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: devere

Correct There is no way in hell the swamp will ever let him win. Unfortunately I don’t believe they’ll let anybody we want as president win again. We are likely going to have to focus on getting control of states legislatures and governorships to reverse these god-awful laws that the Democrats use to harvest and ballet stuff. Until we get that under control they will continue to cheat


130 posted on 06/24/2023 8:56:28 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: mikegreenwell39

The MAGA Movement must survive Trump. We are in a lukewarm Civil War anyway, we may not get to 28.


131 posted on 06/24/2023 8:57:33 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: willk

Any of the 3 you mentioned on the Democrat side will win against anyone the republicans put up against them. 2020 and 2022 should have made that clear.

Trump was underestimated in 2016. They will never make that mistake again


132 posted on 06/24/2023 8:58:37 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: TBP

Is that a riddle?
Why would it matter?


133 posted on 06/24/2023 9:02:25 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: cowboyusa

I don’t disagree. However, I think openly scheming creatures such as DeSantis, who so willingly became a tool of the enemy, are certainly not any solution. Even Massie, one of the only fedgov electeds I held in some esteem (Senator Tuberville has been unexpectedly excellent) has proven himself unworthy with his recent actions (and I understand his personal issues with Trump given the undeserved criticism, but doesn’t excuse his collusion). President Trump is a generational political figure with off the charts charisma; he revived a moribund and dying party (and it has been since I became a voter in 1995). If he does not win in 2024, there will be no republic as we knew it ever again. Any political actor who places their own ambition and ego above this reality is beneath contempt. Ron DeSantis is unacceptable now, and forever in future.


134 posted on 06/24/2023 9:03:27 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: randita

Re: 26 - it will be interesting to see the responses from some of the deep thinkers on this thread.


135 posted on 06/24/2023 9:03:48 PM PDT by Fury
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To: TBP
The initial data suggests that at least one Republican, Mr. DeSantis, in the crowded field is likely to do better than Mr. Trump in the battleground states.

In my fairly wide network of friends, GOPers (previous Trump voters, all), and Indies ( roughly half Trump voters in 16) simply do not want Mister Trump to run again.

Much of it stems from tiredness of cringing at Mister Trumps lack of impulse control. These folks like quite a bit of what Trump did (not all, of course) but they want the same determination and pro-American policies from someone with enough character and wisdom that they can defend and respect.

The cringe, of course, keeps on coming. Imagine trying to decide for whom to vote in the GOP primary, and the loud candidate says such nonsensical, magical thinking things as he can end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.

Trump. His own worst enemy.

136 posted on 06/24/2023 9:05:59 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: HamiltonJay

It’s almost like there was COVID and mail-in voting that made the 2020 presidential election have the highest turnout percentage since the 1900 one between William McKinley and William Jennings Bryan.

There’s a reason beyond simple population growth that Joe Biden and Donald Trump hold the #1 and #2 records for most votes ever received from that same year.


137 posted on 06/24/2023 9:12:28 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: DoughtyOne

Well, being that the GOP has been led by elite globalists for some time now, maybe DeSantis IS the genuine Republican in the race and TRUMP is the RINO. That’s all the more reason to vote for him.


138 posted on 06/24/2023 9:12:41 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mikegreenwell39

He is not a tool of the enemy. The enemy is the left, and DeSantis is vowing to destroy them.


139 posted on 06/24/2023 9:20:33 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: Seaplaner

We are past the personality point now.


140 posted on 06/24/2023 9:21:39 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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