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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m almost to the point of thinking that this is one big setup, with the intent to get the Neocons to get the “Greatest Offensive Operation” going again, as as to make it nice and easy to finish off the Ukrainian military...which would then be followed by Russia moving west in Ukraine and putting an end to the war. I base it on the following:

1. Coups don’t work with popular leaders
2. No protests or anything close to protests against Putin
3. Absolutely no support from the Russian government, and even the Chechens are opposing it.
4. Letting Wagner ‘advance’ as they please, without attempting to stop them.

Given the above, Wagner has about as much chance of overthrowing Putin as the Jan 6th protesters had of overthrowing the US government (and yes, I know the Neocons think Jan 6th was a really close call, but my comment here is not addressed to them).


2 posted on 06/24/2023 9:04:01 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

It’s fun watching your cognitive dissonance collapse in real time.


5 posted on 06/24/2023 9:15:48 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: BobL
4. Letting Wagner ‘advance’ as they please, without attempting to stop them.

Yup, brilliant plan by Putin, allow the Wagnerites to get close to Moscow because... Wait that makes no sense, but then you are a Putinista.

6 posted on 06/24/2023 9:17:32 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: BobL

“Dictators” and “strong men” only maintain strength with the backing of a military and security state, but their grip on the populace is always brittle because people don’t “love” them - they fear them.

Russians are resigned to corrupt leadership and even a corrupt system, but underneath the stoic resignation burns the fire of resentment just as you and I often feel towards our “elites”.

I have no idea how this ends and maybe you are right, but this is risky business across the board that involves hundreds of billions of dollars in secreted wealth AND potentially nuclear weapons.

If Putin’s life is on the line or those of his military leaders how far do you think they will go?


7 posted on 06/24/2023 9:18:32 AM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: BobL

“Wagner has about as much chance of overthrowing Putin as the Jan 6th protesters had of overthrowing the US government”

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That’s because they don’t have a Shaman to lead them. LOL


8 posted on 06/24/2023 9:19:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: BobL

It was a set up. Zelensky installed by the Obama puppet masters.. Obama started a proxy war against Russia in Syria by placing US troops a stones throw from a military base..Biden startes war drums in Ukraine which zel initially said stop… then the endless cash and weapons started to flow like rain in Seattle. Suddenly, sel is smiling, Ukrainians are tweeting from war zones about the body counts… cuz apparently Russia forgot to cut supplies and coms..
the globalists require Russian natural resources and slave labor to obtain them. Only regime change with the appointment of another puppet will work.
We must be out of Afghanistan lithium.
Or maybe it’s a righteous war, just like the others.


15 posted on 06/24/2023 12:04:12 PM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: BobL

Pooty-poot is popular?


18 posted on 06/24/2023 1:53:02 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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