Posted on 06/23/2023 8:35:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr
Well, well...
Prigojin said today what all sane people knew all along:
That Russia indeed completely lied about Ukraine. Ukraine was never the aggressive one, and only tries to defend itself against Russia’s invasion, greed and lust for imperialism.
Wagner is now supporting the Ukraine narrative and truthfulness. Way to go !!
Prigojin is merely saying that the Kremlin are a bunch of spoiled deep-state politicians suffering from greed.
A Russian army commander has been accused of stealing engines from Putin's prized T-90 tanks, report says
The Russians would probably have taken Kyiv in the first month of the war if it wasn't for their $#itty logistics due to corruption.
"The Wagner Group is now storming the headquarters of the Russian Defense Ministry in Rostov, Russia, which means they are well on their way to Moscow."
However, Agenda-Free TV, post #5, just said (8hr 25m in their stream) the forces at Rostov may be Russian military or police. I'm following it as it comes in, will make sense of it later.
Churchill’s words apply here. “It’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.”
At a minimum, Wagner has virtually cut all Russian supply lines to Ukraine
Potemkin moment at hand?
It is not a civil war- it’s a war on hired mercenaries trying to run the oligarchs. Prighozin is just one of the oligarchs, and in a very precarious position for sure. But not a civil war.
Video of Prigozhin at the Rostov military base just appeared.
What is to be seen is if this triggers other things.
Wagner channels claim that Gerasimov escaped from the Rostov headquarters along with people loyal to him and is holed up in a civilian apartment with his friends in Rostov
“A lot of people rejoiced at the Tsar being overthrown, only to wish him back a few years later.”
Yep, your Tsar is going down. Hopefully, he will meet a sledge hammer soon. So sorry, you will miss him.
“When the boots wore out they’d be ready to listen” - Yevgraf Zhivago
But until then, burn Russia, burn!
Glad that we are discussing some reality here.
Prigozhin claims he is supporting Putin against a corrupt military. We will see.
At the moment he has taken the tact that Ukraine was amisadventure sold to Putin by corrupt military and oligarchs. So at the moment it appears Prigozhin might end this war.
Maybe.
They have called out forces to guard the building in Moscow, not Kiev.
I never predict what will happen, but the people here who TOLD us how Ukraine was being obliterated,Russia cannot lose, etc, have been completely ignorant bores.
And apparently Prigozhin doesn’t think Russia was fighting Globohomos,nazis, or even Vicky Nuland.
The propaganda balloon has been burst.
“The Russians would probably have taken Kyiv in the first month of the war if it wasn’t for their $#itty logistics due to corruption. “
IF.
I was thinking this had to be good news for Ukraine. If they are going to win this... now is the time.
“Video of Prigozhin at the Rostov military base just appeared.”
In the video he is with General Sergey Kuzovlev, commander of the Southern Military District.
So it’s not the MoD versus Wagner, it is Shoigu/Gerasimov MoD faction versus Wagner plus part of the Russian military.
Shoigu and Gerasimov,
Sweating coldly in fear,
Avoiding windows.
Yevgeny Prigozhin?
They missed his back.
Payback time.
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Russian logistics are getting closer to a "degradation of capability resulting in a tactical relocation of operational forces" if not outright collapse.
Attempting to take out Wagner like this and failing at it was insanely stupid.
thanks for the proper link.
Does Gerimasov wield sufficient power t
And trustworthiness to join Wagner here and march on what’s left of Putins crumbling coalition?
This IS how Ukraine “wins” or what passes for it’s best shot at winning. Will be curious to see if Putin stays the boogeyman here or is allowed to join Wagner and purge the others, military etc and end the Ukraine invasion.
Or does Putin go all out with what he has left including using tactical nukes inside his own nominal borders?
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