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The Men Fight Back (After MeToo, a Regressive Vision of Masculinity Became Increasingly Popular.)
Mother Jones ^ | JUNE 15, 2023 | Eamon Whalen

Posted on 06/23/2023 2:52:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 06/23/2023 2:52:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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What a steaming load. Any man who relies on social media influencers to tell him how to be a man has already failed hopelessly.


2 posted on 06/23/2023 2:59:23 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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Any man who relies on social media influencers to tell him how to be a man has already failed hopelessly.

The Western Society is now feminized. That's why Andrew Tate has developed a huge following.

3 posted on 06/23/2023 3:02:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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This is just another reason why the 19th amendment was a huge mistake!


4 posted on 06/23/2023 3:10:11 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with following the advice of Jordan Peterson. He’s brilliant. Loved his book.


5 posted on 06/23/2023 3:10:28 PM PDT by strider44
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Andrew Tate is a woke, misandrist, clickbait con artist. He has MLM and porn designed to scam men out of money. He believes in white privilege and BLM.


6 posted on 06/23/2023 3:11:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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EAMON WHALEN: I am a 2016 graduate of the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities where I majored in Sociology and minored in African-American studies.

That prepares one to first cut off their testicles and then write tripe like this.

7 posted on 06/23/2023 3:12:57 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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Andrew Tate is seedy, no doubt about that. But still, he is making valid arguments. Also, when a mullah from Saudi Arabia accuses the West of being decadent, I mean, I have to agree with him.

The point is that Andrew Tate isbmaking is that feminists are basically running this country and you're not allowed to be a man.

8 posted on 06/23/2023 3:20:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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So Rosie O’Donnell is “every woman”? That bull-d*** bully?


9 posted on 06/23/2023 3:22:11 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To these disturbed man haters masculinity, by its very nature, is regressive and threatening.

The “masculinity” they desire is a subservient, neutered (former) male. I’ve no doubt that in their ideal world some men would be saved for procreation while the majority would be neutered at the onset of puberty. I really mean that.


10 posted on 06/23/2023 3:22:48 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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He believes in white privilege and BLM.

And Tate further argues it's better to have sex with a hot tranny than an ugly woman.

Nope.

I don't care. There's no such thing as a hot tranny because no matter how good of a job the surgeon did, no matter how much the tranny passes as a female (and some pass very well), he's still a dude.

And I don't have sex with dudes.

11 posted on 06/23/2023 3:27:29 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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Awwww. Mother Jones got their panties in a wad again?


12 posted on 06/23/2023 3:28:40 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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He does?


13 posted on 06/23/2023 3:29:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Mother Jones is going broke. They need your help Freepers. :)


14 posted on 06/23/2023 3:30:20 PM PDT by dljordan
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He does?

Scroll to 1:37 for Tate's own words.

Tate: It’s Ok to Sleep With Trans Women If…

15 posted on 06/23/2023 3:35:48 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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* Family Govt. Sovereign Law “marriage”

* $

* Papers Served

* Divorce

* Betrayed

Gone. “Fool me once....” Trust. ❌


16 posted on 06/23/2023 3:39:16 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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As the rise of Trump made the men’s rights movement more likely to embrace racism...

They just can't help themselves, can they?

17 posted on 06/23/2023 3:42:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Good luck with that.


18 posted on 06/23/2023 3:45:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Remember, Tate makes money bilking men he thinks are losers. Everything he says is to that end.


19 posted on 06/23/2023 3:46:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The Left is desperate. Notice the tricky wording in the article.

After MeToo, a regressive vision of masculinity became increasingly popular. Here’s a guide.

-It started before the MeToo lie.
-It's not "regressive".
-It's not a "vision". It's a journey to reality.
-They don't need 'Mother Jones' to give them a guide. They already have one.

More than five years ago, the MeToo movement exploded and our culture shifted.

Again, it started before the MeToo lie.

...asking how it will alter the lives of the next generation.

Next generation? Generation X, Millenials, and Gen Z are already opening their eyes. There are even Boomers opening their eyes.

One of the consequences of the revelations that many prominent men behaved poorly in private was a very public effort to grapple with the whole concept of masculinity... But MeToo raised another question: Who would speak to these men?

No, "these men" didn't behave poorly. They were falsely accused by women in a system rigged in misandrists favor. The Leftist men, who actually behaved criminally, not "poorly", were given a free pass.

Over the last five years, the answer has become clear: influencers. These micro-celebrities have positioned themself as guidance givers to struggling boys.

Nice attempt to belittle these influencers as "micro-celebrities". These individuals have a wider audience and more impact than the talking heads of the Propaganda Media, including 'Mother Jones'. They're not "giving guidance", they're just telling the truth that has been hidden by the Propaganda Media and maternal societies. They're not "struggling boys". Many are men who are waking up to just how is it they've been screwed by a system that's rigged against them.

Often, they pose the problem as not men’s fault and instead blame the usual suspects, feminists.

No, they just make it clear what Feminism has done, especially third wave Feminism.

Many are part of, or adjacent to, what has become known as the “manosphere”—a loose-knit network of hyper-online masculinists who see the undermining of traditional gender norms as the reason for the decline of, well, everything.

It's not "traditional gender norms", it's actual biology and reality dictated by male and female brains and bodies. The decline is real and impacts most everything.

Trump’s ascendency in some ways helped push this along.

Cart - horse. Trump's election was due in large part to both men and women waking up and being tired of the lies and rigged systems. President Trump spoke the truth about what was already happening.

...But to focus solely on him ignores the unique ways young men have found their way to right-wing politics through a backlash to MeToo, rather than the other way around.

It's not a backlash against "MeToo"; it's a reclamation of what was perverted by Feminists and the Propaganda Media along with their globalist cohorts.

Jordan Peterson rose to fame in 2016.

So... the author exposes their own lies when citing 2016, clearly before five years.

...he began releasing lectures aimed at helping troubled young men...

and women. They can't have that truth out there that women, who didn't want to be childless working drones, whoring themselves out to be "liberated", sought answers as to why the system was so rigged.

...self-reliant right-wing politics is key to the overall ethos

It's not right or left wing and it's anti-political. The Left wants to label these truth seekers as right wing to slur them and cast aspersions in order to detract from the effort.

Kelly, the researcher, began to notice a more coherent, right-wing nationalist style of politics forming in antifeminist spaces.

It's not right-wing, and it's not nationalist other than it's inevitably anti-globalist because the globalists are the ones who've seeded these lies.

Anthony “Dream” Johnson, “President” of the Manosphere... acts as a sort of gatekeeper of the manosphere.

No, there is no president. There is no gatekeeper. It's a journey to the truth.

Concealing your identity and operating under a pseudonym as Murphy did has become a trend among the hard-right edge of masculinity influencers.

Concealing your identity? Let's start with Antifa who Democrat Representative Jerry Nadler actually had the gall to say doesn't exist despite arson during the Democrat Riots of 2020. Masks are the norm for them. What about the identity of all the nameless censors who targeted people for speaking the truth?

In 2021, an aspiring manosphere influencer who wrote books under the name Roman McClay, and who was greatly inspired by BAP’s writing, went on to murder five people in a mass shooting in Denver. McClay was also a self-declared member of Murphy’s “Liminal Order,” and was under consideration for a speaking slot at Anthony “Dream” Johnson’s 21 Convention.

Roman McClay was raided in 2017 for running a drug operation. He posted pictures of his marijuana growing and made threats. He wasn't arrested and was allowed to keep his firearms because... he was likely a plant, a confidential informant which the FBI has since been exposed as using. One of their other "confidential informants" tried to shoot up a "Draw Muhammad" contest in Arizona.

[Kevin] Samuels didn’t become popular until “he started switching his content to giving women advice and, more importantly, degrading them. His appeal was largely about just tearing down women’s self-esteem,”...

No, Kevin Samuels told the truth that these women didn't want to hear but needed to hear. He told them the truth that they deluded themselves thinking that some high-value man with a six-figure income was going to marry them when they were obese and had three kids with three different fathers.

Fountain Jr. says it’s important to keep in mind that the Black manosphere is responding to a different male experience with a very different set of grievances. “The white manosphere is trying to reverse the hands of time to regain a patriarchy that they felt that they lost,” he said. “[The Black manosphere], on the other hand, are trying to gain a sense of patriarchy that they never were entitled to.”

Unbelievable rascism coming from 'Mother Jones'. There is no white and black manosphere. Men and some women, both black and white are seeking the truth as to why the previous generations allowed the game to be rigged for Feminists to destroy culture for political and financial gain.

[Andrew] Tate’s TikTok videos have been viewed more than 12 billion times, making him one of the most popular posters on the platform.

So much for the lie that these are "micro-influencers".

In August 2022, Tate was banned from Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and YouTube.

Making the point exactly that the Left will not tolerate free speech. He was banned for telling the truth, specifically for exposing that passengers in korporate jets didn't have take the Jim Jones Jabs, quarantine, or test for COVID-1984 when freely crossing borders of locked down countries. How did he know this is true? He knew because he did it himself.

Then in December, Tate was arrested by Romanian authorities on allegations of human trafficking and rape.

Allegations that were publicly refuted by the women themselves. This is about power. They went after him because he could expose human trafficking like the Left does through Jeffrey Epstein - for which NOT ONE client has been charged, much less gone to prison.

-Just try to take any Feminist term such as "toxic masculinity" and expose toxic femininity and see how fast you get banned from social media.
-Ask a simple question why there no woman EVER gets charged for claiming false paternity and see how fast you get banned from social media.
-Ask why it's illegal to get a paternity test in some countries and see how fast you get banned.
-Ask why a man can be forced to pay child support to a child that has been proven to not be his.
-Ask why child support isn't a fixed rate per month for any man but is instead raised to fund the court system. Clearly it's not about child support.
-Ask why if a man can't pay child support, he goes to prison but if a woman can't pay child support she gets more money from taxpayers and from her ex, whether he's the father or not.

Go on social media and simply state that you want to be a mother and a housewife. Watch the vitriol. Go on social media and say you're a man who wants to be a father with a wife who stays home to raise the children and see quickly the sick, vicious, self-haters come after you.

20 posted on 06/23/2023 4:04:25 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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