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To: Glad2bnuts
Actually, if the US wouldn’t have pushed a coup in 2014,

Nonsense. There was no coup in 2014. Yanukovych abandoned his job and the Ukrainian Parliament removed him from office by a unanimous vote.

Putin: Russia helped Yanukovych to flee Ukraine

Ukrainian MPs vote to oust President Yanukovych

21 posted on 06/23/2023 12:44:53 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler
Nonsense. There was no coup in 2014.

Maybe you have other words for when a violent mob overthrows a duly elected government in an unconstutional manner, but coup is also appropriate. Nuland wasn't organizing the replacement governments in the weeks prior on a mere hunch. That's laughably naïve.

Yanukovych abandoned his job and the Ukrainian Parliament removed him from office by a unanimous vote.

Yanukovych fled a murderous mob after they rejected a compromise that included early elections. He was not removed constitutionally. Impeachment of the Ukrainian president required not only charges to be filed (they weren't), but it also requires a 3/4's vote of the full Rada - 338 votes.

The 328 votes for removal of the president carry as much authority as 60 Senators voting to remove the U.S. President - not enough!

It was a coup by any definition of the word, or honest assessment of how the change in power was achieved (murderous mob violence, and ignoring Constitutional procedure to replace duly elected officials).

27 posted on 06/23/2023 1:00:07 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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