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Military Members Kicked Out for Refusing COVID Vaccine Seek to Have Their Discharges Upgraded
Epoch Times ^ | June 20, 2023 | J.M. Phelps

Posted on 06/21/2023 6:16:43 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

Plus be re-instated at the rank they had and get back pay for sure, even if they don’t go back on to active duty.


21 posted on 06/21/2023 7:38:23 AM PDT by kagnew
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To: Graybeard58

Same here. I still have a small scar on my left arm to prove it. (1970-19730 RVN).


22 posted on 06/21/2023 7:39:54 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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23 posted on 06/21/2023 7:45:28 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: george76

And how many of them had multiple tours in Iraq or Afghanistan.

This chaps this Vet’s ass to the max.


24 posted on 06/21/2023 7:50:52 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“The order was not lawful. The Jim Jones Jab is NOT a vaccine.”

I agree on the order not being lawful, based on the Covid shot being an experimental vaccine. In addition I did bathe in, and drink, the water at Camp Lejeune during the years the water was poisoned.

It is tragic the top brass of today’s military, from Secretary of Defense through the general staff all of the services, is highly politicized and is no longer concerned with the health and morale of the troops.

I once asked a retired O-5 veteran of Korea and Vietnam, a leader I highly respected, why he had not been promoted to O-6 and above. His statement resonates with me to this day, “I am proud I never gave an order, resulting in the injury and death of personnel for whom I was responsible, for the sole purpose of advancing my career.”

Lloyd Austin, along with the generals and admirals below him, made the decision to force the vaccine on the military despite it being experimental, with long term effects unknown. This decision affected millions of people and may have shortened their lives given the information that is now becoming public about the side effects of the vaccine. It is now evident the vaccine order was a bad decision and likely made purely for political reasons. Much of the information about harmful side effects was known to the federal government, and the pharmaceutical companies, at the time the order was given to the military. What does that say about the ethics and morality of todays civilian and military leaders as well as the senior executives in the pharmaceutical industry?


25 posted on 06/21/2023 7:52:44 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it)
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To: george76

Isn’t the process called a BCMR? Which stands for Basic Correction of Military Record.

I have seen a few of those, and one several of them resulted in back pay, advancement, and reinstatement all based on probable timelines if they had remained in service.


26 posted on 06/21/2023 8:05:15 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: CodeToad; T.B. Yoits

“Wasn’t lawful”

Say that as much as you want - guess who gets to decide what’s ‘lawful’ and what ain’t?

These guys/gals will be long gone before the ‘right thing’ is done by them - just like the atomic test victims and the slow-walking they got.

They’ll get their discharge upgraded, someday. Maybe.


27 posted on 06/21/2023 8:37:18 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Graybeard58

True that!

However, I served FRom 3 March, 1963 until 30 September, 1991, and IIRC, NOT ONE of the shots I had to take were “killer shots!”


28 posted on 06/21/2023 10:38:34 AM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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To: Graybeard58
What all the others said to you, I agree. I have long appreciated your wisdom and input but you are living on memories not applicable here.

I spent over 3 decades in the military. The outrageous, illegal, and destructive orders with COVID "vaccines" are different. These "Just suck it up and take it, soldier!" orders have killed, injured, or ruined the careers of way too many military people (and dependents) than to be considered sensible medical business as usual. In fact, the harm was readily foreseeable by Command. There was plenty of warning. These shots should have been heartily resisted and rejected by those responsible for the wellbeing and readiness of our military. They have caused great harm to the Services and will continue to do so into the future.

If it were up to me I would court-martial or fire all in the Chain of Command who caused this disaster whether military or civilian. They have done our enemies a great favor.

29 posted on 06/21/2023 1:26:06 PM PDT by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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It’s been decades since I enlisted so my memory may be faulty but I sure don’t remember being axed by anyone whether I wanted shots/vax or not.

What kind of MRNA shots were they giving out "decades ago" that the Nuremberg Code didn't apply?

30 posted on 06/21/2023 1:45:17 PM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: larrytown
The only real issue is that there is no way to deny that lawful orders were disobeyed.

The single most important reason that everyone in the service should have refused these shots is that any order to take them was, in fact, unlawful.

31 posted on 06/21/2023 1:48:17 PM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: Captain Walker
Again, it's WHO gets to say what is lawful and unlawful?

These are the people that said it was lawful, and mandated - so...?

This situation for these folks is what happens between "lawful order" and some future settlement or legal decision says different - and don't see that changing anytime soon for them.

As it stands RIGHT NOW, they disobeyed lawful orders. "Should have" and mewling arguments about 'experimental blah blah blah' don't change that.

They had the courage of their convictions, and are paying the price - righteous or otherwise.

This is why no one that joins the military should be under the misapprehension that anyone actually cares about them. They don't.
32 posted on 06/21/2023 2:02:35 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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This situation for these folks is what happens between "lawful order" and some future settlement or legal decision says different - and don't see that changing anytime soon for them.

The order was in complete violation of the informed consent provision of the Nuremberg Code; that's what made it unlawful (not some possible finding at a future court martial). The rank of the individual (or individuals) giving the order has no bearing on its merits.

33 posted on 06/21/2023 4:11:10 PM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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Of course - that’s why these people got dumped on their azz with GD’s. [eyeroll]


34 posted on 06/21/2023 7:27:54 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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