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Biden Pours Cold Water on Ukraine's Hopes to Speed Up NATO Membership
Newsweek ^ | June 17, 2023 | Andrew Stanton

Posted on 06/18/2023 8:55:17 AM PDT by McGruff

President Joe Biden poured cold water on Ukraine's hopes of expedited membership into the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) amid Russia's invasion on Saturday.

On Saturday, the president addressed the possibility of speeding up the process to allow Ukraine to join the alliance ahead of his 2024 campaign rally in Philadelphia.

A reporter asked Biden about previous reports claiming that he supported waiving the requirement for Ukraine to obtain a Membership Action Plan (MAP) to join NATO. According to the MAP, candidates must make military and democratic reforms before being considered to join. However, this could be a lengthy process for Kyiv amid what its government views as a more urgent need to join the alliance.

However, Biden disputed that he would consider easing the process for Ukraine.

"No," he said. "They've got to meet the same standards. So I'm not going to make it easier."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: andrewstanton; biden; bidenisputinsally; eussr; fourthreich; newsweak; russiantool; ukraine; zot
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1 posted on 06/18/2023 8:55:17 AM PDT by McGruff
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dopey joe’s conundrum is that he’s not only compromised by the yooks, he’s compromised by virtue of his handlers from obama and the clintons being compromised by the russians. But mostly by his being thoroughly owned by the chicoms who have the ultimate say in so much of our government, corporations, media and academia.


2 posted on 06/18/2023 9:01:00 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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“Biden Pours Cold Water on Ukraine’s Hopes to Speed Up NATO Membership”

Considering how many times that the West has flat-out LIED to Russia, I really doubt Putin believes the above for a moment, as it’s clearly designed to say “Don’t worry about Ukraine after the war, we’re not going to militarize them”.

The idea here is to get Russia to end their liberation of Ukraine prematurely, and then, of course, to immediately have Ukraine enter NATO.


3 posted on 06/18/2023 9:01:51 AM PDT by BobL
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Ukraine will never be in Nato. I don't know how Zelensky vr thought that was evn possible....he reminds me of another creature who wanted something he could never really have.....


4 posted on 06/18/2023 9:03:50 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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Unofficially, Ukraine is a member of NATO.

So, official or unofficially, Ukraine is being defended as it it was already in NATO.

Once the war is over, Ukraine will be admitted in. Russia’s invasion will have backfired, big time.


5 posted on 06/18/2023 9:10:29 AM PDT by adorno
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Ironic, since Biden himself is a “MAP” of another sort.


6 posted on 06/18/2023 9:25:16 AM PDT by montag813
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First they have to pay him his 10% then they can become members os NATO.

The most corrupt president of the USA ever.


7 posted on 06/18/2023 9:30:24 AM PDT by George J. Jetso
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Ukraine was never going to be allowed in NATO. That will not change.


8 posted on 06/18/2023 9:36:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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“””So, official or unofficially, Ukraine is being defended as it it was already in NATO.”””

Not even close.


9 posted on 06/18/2023 9:41:24 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Not even close.

Denying it doesn't negate the fact.

Ukraine would have lost in the first month of Russia's invasion, and Ukraine didn't have the weapons nor the trained personnel to keep the Russians at bay.

Enter the NATO allies, including the U.S., and Russia is nowhere close to winning and they stand a good chance of losing. So, where did the assistance come from if not from NATO countries, including the U.S.?
10 posted on 06/18/2023 9:46:03 AM PDT by adorno
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We are giving some paltry assistance to Ukraine but it is a world away from being “defended as if it was already in NATO”.


11 posted on 06/18/2023 9:51:37 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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“We are giving some paltry assistance”

LOL


12 posted on 06/18/2023 9:53:31 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The rules are that you can’t be involved in an active war to join NATO.

US doesn’t want to send troops before an election. Not because they care about troops in body bags but because it would not please the electorate because we have no business being in Ukraine except to enrich the deep staters.


13 posted on 06/18/2023 9:54:48 AM PDT by dforest
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No it isn’t. Ukraine is not being defended as it would be in NATO.

If it was, Zelensky would quit pushing it.


14 posted on 06/18/2023 9:57:07 AM PDT by dforest
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It is considered paltry because NATO troops in numbers are not on the ground. It is not paltry in terms of money we are dishing out. It has also been a big boost for corrupt Uke and Western politicians.

Western countries have unloaded their dinosaur weaponry off in Ukraine in exchange for newer stuff from the MIL Industry in the US.

Some people are getting rich while others in the west get nothing and Ukraine citizens get to do the dying.


15 posted on 06/18/2023 10:03:47 AM PDT by dforest
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No it isn’t. Ukraine is not being defended as it would be in NATO.

Get over it and admit and accept it.

Ukraine would be a republic of Russia (again!), if not for NATO using its capabilities to keep Russia out.
16 posted on 06/18/2023 10:09:32 AM PDT by adorno
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Biden Pours Cold Water on Ukraine's Hopes to Speed Up NATO Membership

Of course he does, there's still graft money for the Biden Crime family to collect from Ukes and launder through Ukraine, and the tiny bit of Proxy cover supplied by Ukraine for the US Deep Swamp's proxy war on Russia.

Like a good Prog Marxist, Biden will use up Ukraine for everything he can milk out of 'em and then throw 'em away. It'll look like the Biden "Withdrawal" from Afghanistan, Ukies chasing behind American transport aircraft as they take off.

17 posted on 06/18/2023 10:13:27 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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...it is a world away from being “defended as if it was already in NATO

One of the world's biggest military is being held at bay, 'with paltry assistance'? Give me a break!

NATO is assisting Ukraine, and Ukraine is not officially a member, but, only a member nation gets NATO assistance. So, Ukraine is being defende as if it was a NATO member. There is no other way to look at it, unless you are willfully blind.
18 posted on 06/18/2023 10:13:40 AM PDT by adorno
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The Russians will take every inch of Ukraine before it is allowed into NATO.
19 posted on 06/18/2023 10:17:20 AM PDT by Kazan
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No I won’t. It is not the same and YOU know it. If this is the best NATO can do then it should be dissolved. I like that idea.

So far, Ukraine isn’t getting the full meal deal because they are not NATO members and they won’t be because the west doesn’t want to fight Russia face to face.

While NATO countries were fiddling around homoing up their militaries, other countries were arming and preparing.


20 posted on 06/18/2023 10:17:53 AM PDT by dforest
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