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To: Jim Noble; amnestynone; Timber Rattler; SpeedyInTexas; PIF; ought-six; Monterrosa-24; dennisw; ...

“... the Monroe Doctrine and the Mexican War created conditions of peace and safety for almost two centuries...”

Until it didn’t on Dec. 7, 1941. The next day all the Americans who had been America firsters or war resisters suddenly demanded we declare war against Japan, and many soon realized war with Germany and Italy was also necessary. The US Communists were no longer accusing FDR of being a war monger. Russia (Stalin) had formed a pact with Hitler to not fight each other so they could each grab 1/2 of Poland when Hitler started the attack. Russia got its half, but Hitler soon attacked Russia, and US Communists immediately followed the Party line and demanded we go to war in Europe to help Russia. Until Japan’s attack, many of the pro Germany members of the America First Committee were Rupublicans who were strongly against FDR’s efforts to help the European war which had begun 2 years earlier.

Roosevelt’s efforts to help the European war against Hitler received materiel help from the US Lend Lease program wherein we provided arms, food, and other necessities on the basis that they would be repaid or returned when the war was over. When the war ended, the USSR (Russia) which had been an “allie” soon became an obvious enemy with a “cold war” continuing until around 1991 when the USSR (Soviet Union) collapsed, and various parts of Russia , such as Ukraine, became independent entities. Unfortunately, this did not last long as a new leader, Vladimir Putin, soon began to flex his muscles and fight in places like Chechnia and Georgia. More recently he turned his sights on Crimea and eastern Ukraine. On Feb. 24, 2022 his full blown attack was aimed directly at the capital of Ukraine, Kiev. This attack did NOT succeed, but Russia and Ukriane have been at war ever since.

Unfortunately, from 1945 to 1991, the Soviets not only had a “sphere of influence” in places like East Germany, Poland, Hungary, and the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, they actually had direct control of their governments and vicious control by deadly secret police. Have you forgotten the joy when the Berlin Wall which separated Soviet East Germany from West Germany was finally torn down. None of Russia’s former “spheres of influence” have any desire to return to their prior state of servility. Failure to keep a tight rein on Putin’s ambitions will once again lead to widespread warfare and tragedy which most likely would once again force us to engage in all out war to protect our own independence. One tenth of our military budget to keep such a war from happening I believe is money well spent.


129 posted on 06/16/2023 4:40:34 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

Your words are pearls before swine. The Russian trolls won’t be swayed by logical arguments when they’re all in for a resurgent Soviet empire.


136 posted on 06/16/2023 6:26:05 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: gleeaikin; Jim Noble; amnestynone; Timber Rattler; SpeedyInTexas; PIF; ought-six; Monterrosa-24; ...

“”“... the Monroe Doctrine and the Mexican War created conditions of peace and safety for almost two centuries...”

Until it didn’t on Dec. 7, 1941.””

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I agree with you.
The Monroe Doctrine was based on isolationism of America and military non-interventionism outside its borders.
That policy gave some Americans a false sense of security. In reality that policy was a boon for our enemies dreaming about expansion and world-domination. Every time America is not being proactive or being stagnant our enemies seize on that and go forward - weakening America in the process.
It’s pure maths.

The Monroe Doctrine is a defeatist ideology (nearly WOKE ideology) which is only teasing our enemies to be more aggressive against us.

The Monroe Doctrine produces on the international scene a level of chaos that “defund the police” does locally in America.
Looks what’s happening in California : Young criminals just enter shops, steal what they want, while the Monroe-inspired society just watches and do nothing! Non-intervention!

The Monroe Doctrine is when violent burglars attack a family’s house, the victims trying to call the police, but no one comes because they are “defunded”. No means to intervene!

The Monroe Doctrine is the breeding ground for decadence. Letting crooks and enemies do whatever they want, while the good guys do nothing.

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“The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing”
EDMUND BURKE (presumably)
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147 posted on 06/16/2023 8:07:59 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: gleeaikin

And NONE of that has anything to do with the world situation in 2023.


155 posted on 06/16/2023 9:21:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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