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To: SeekAndFind
So, if a baby is born in the USA ( regardless of the baby’s parent’s’ citizenship ), is the baby subject to the jurisdiction of the government of the United States or not?

Indeterminate without the citizenship of the parents. And the original question was regarding Natural Born Citizen status of US Presidents, so if the baby in question did not issue from US citizens, the baby cannot be a Natural Born US Citizen qualified to be President of the US.

It seems your problem is with the Cornell law reference to 'natural born', which left out the required "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". I don't know if you could have picked a more 'woke' and 'broke' source for legal argument.

66 posted on 06/15/2023 7:28:10 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: RideForever

RE: if the baby in question did not issue from US citizens

1. You used the PLURAL. What if either father or mother are American Citizens at the baby’s birth ?

2. I did refer to “subject to jurisdiction” in my previous post, that is why we’re discussing it here. What exactly does jurisdiction mean in this context? When you are in the USA, in what way are you NOT subject to American jurisdiction? You must obey all American laws even if you are not from this country when you live here. Isn’t that being subject to American jurisdiction?

3. Let’s not conflate being born an American Citizen with being a NATURAL BORN American Citizen. The former ( in the case of Kamala ) is BEYOND DISPUTE. Kamala did not need to be naturalized because she was already a citizen at birth. Is she a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN ? *THAT* is the issue that is still in dispute ( but not by anyone in leadership today ).


67 posted on 06/15/2023 8:06:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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