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To: Pete Dovgan

You don’t think the Russians make things? You don’t think they know how to resupply their missiles and tanks?

I presume you must be one of these anti-Russian, hate-filled baby boomers, still living in the cold war era like Lindsey Graham.

The cold war ended. Russia is a republic. The people in Donbas just want freedom from the corrupt Ukraine. They want the right to choose their own laws. Putin is corrupt, he’s a very bad guy, and everybody knows, including the people in Russia. It doesn’t have to be restated over and over. But Putin didn’t start this war. Ukraine did, by not abiding by the Minsk agreement. And the U.S. played a role by funding the political opposition in 2014.

Nobody in their right mind should be rooting for Ukraine.


16 posted on 06/12/2023 4:43:39 PM PDT by georgefishman
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To: georgefishman

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022. But go ahead and believe in Kremlin Bolshevik fairy tales if you wish.


17 posted on 06/12/2023 4:49:57 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: georgefishman

As a retread, you signed up today, and have two posts so far, and both of them attack Americans born between 1946 and 1964.

Very strange, even for a retread.


22 posted on 06/12/2023 5:28:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: georgefishman

Russian production is 2-20 tanks a month. Feel free to look that up.
They have lost 2000+ tanks. They ‘may’ have 3000 tanks they can bring out of storage.

Please do the math. I am serious when I state that the US has some 5-6k Bradley’s ( not in use) and more M60 variants not being used than Russia has tanks ‘possible’ in storage. I haven’t even mentioned aircraft here. If Ukraine gets air superiority it could be a threat to Moscow. Nobody wants that,

Russia can make things. Yet, the biggest tank manufacturing of the old Soviet Union was in Ukraine. Yes, I am certain that Russian associates, especially China, can resupply Russia with spares. The reality of throwing old equipment at the problem heavily favors the west.

Honestly, if Russia was willing to leave Ukraine, and all its territories now, and potentially give up its border territory for a peace deal, it would probably get the Ukrainians to the table. Scoff if you want, but Russia is in grave danger internally if it fails. I don’t want an unstable Russia, I don’t want another Russian revolution, or a eastern power vacuum with an armed Ukraine.

Step away from the Rhetoric, and start asking how to get peace when you have invaded a neighboring nation, murdered its citizens, raped women, destroyed homes, and your loosing ground and your army is getting cut off. This is a stupid unnecessary war, and a lot of innocent civilians have already suffered enough.


23 posted on 06/12/2023 5:30:32 PM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: georgefishman
But Putin didn’t start this war.

LOL. Only somebody posting propaganda for a living can say that.

How deluded do you have to be to think that Putin didn't order his military to invade Ukraine?

25 posted on 06/12/2023 5:35:47 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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