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BREAKING: Sources say Special Counsel Smith does not actually have the supposed "smoking gun" doc Trump is heard on an audio talking about, which means he cannot prove it is classified
Paul Sperry on Twitter ^ | June 10, 2023 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 06/10/2023 11:19:24 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

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To: mass55th

Access is different than classified material control. If the powers want to give them access that is the the prerogative of the authorizing individual.

If they’re no longer in a position that requires them to maintain classified documents they shouldn’t have them, when they walk out that door the documents stay behind. The individual does not own the documents the individual only requires a documents as long as the position is held where the documents would be a requirement to have. But if they’re not in that position why are they still hanging on to this stuff? It is a breach or a threat to National Security especially if it’s compromised. Reduced the threat of compromise by maintaining strict control of classified documents.

Ex-presidents don’t need to have boxes upon boxes of classified documents at their residences or offices or any other sites if they’re no longer in the position that requires it. Ex-presidents don’t require it, ex generals don’t require it, former SES or GS bureaucrats don’t require it. Why do they have it? The Classified Matetial Control system needs an overhaul. The military doesn’t really have a problem with it they have strict control and they maintain it well sometimes it burps but it’s not anything like the civil service and its blatant diaregard and mismanagement.


101 posted on 06/10/2023 9:14:16 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: rolling_stone
"it was also a “general” warrant, unconstitutional...."

Thanks...I didn't know that. But one then has to ask why Trump's lawyers didn't challenge the invasion because the warrant was unconstitutional. This indictment never should have happened based on the fact that the warrant used to conduct the search was illegal to begin with.

102 posted on 06/10/2023 9:29:05 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Golden Eagle
If you know anything about Trump is that he’s a jokester and is a grandmaster in BS. As Coulter said years ago his supporters take him seriously, not literally.

Without producing the document it’s hard to know. It’s interesting one of the documents charged over apparently didn’t have a security designation.

103 posted on 06/10/2023 10:38:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: Golden Eagle

According to the left, Trump told 20,000 lies in 4 yrs. They call him a pathological liar, so they can’t pretend he was suddenly telling the truth when he flashed those documents around. Can’t have it both ways, much as you’d like to.


104 posted on 06/11/2023 12:25:06 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Vermont Lt

You don’t remember the 3 yrs of hell the DOJ put us through with pee tapes and evidence of Russian collusion? You don’t think they won’t lie about Trump again? 🤣


105 posted on 06/11/2023 12:27:31 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Every time every president talked about classified details in a speech, they should have been arrested, especially and only if they were a threat to a democrat. That is now the Orwellian standard.


106 posted on 06/11/2023 5:05:19 AM PDT by PA-RIVER ( )
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To: randita
That's exactly the plan of the Democrats. Make his supporters "tired of the drama" convince Trump to ride off into the sunset.

If we allow them to get away with that, the Democrats now have a template to destroy any other Republician with a MAGA, anti Deep State agenda.

It will be successful if people like you get "tired" and give up the fight.

107 posted on 06/11/2023 5:14:09 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (5,301,904 Truth | 86,921,174 Twitter)
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To: euram

Which is all the more reason to believe 2020 and 2022 were stolen.


108 posted on 06/11/2023 6:07:51 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Clutch Martin

“It’s called access they can be granted access anytime within 10 years of their last SSBI.”

It’s my understanding that politicians are granted their security clearances by virtue of their being elected. I don’t believe they go through the background investigations that we mere mortals have to.

Otherwise Omar and Obama would never have been given clearances.


109 posted on 06/11/2023 7:05:45 AM PDT by CaptainKip
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Matthew Whitaker, former acting head if DOJ, said this morning that the document reffered to in the indictment that they say Trump was talking about on the tape recording has never been found. So, who knows what this document actually is/was and what it says.


110 posted on 06/11/2023 9:59:04 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Will the DOJ or FBI be able to fabricate a false recording or document like, say, the Steele dossier?


111 posted on 06/11/2023 10:04:42 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: CaptainKip

That is true, but why does that not carry through after they’re out of office?

However up the discretion of Speaker of the House for committee and for reps it might not extend to the top secret classification as a wood for El Presidenté, there needs to be a change. Plain and simple if a person does not qualify for TS perhaps he or she shouldn’t run.

That said the CIA has a close hold on access and need to know. Good, but that’s probably due to their TS-SCI clearance needs. Presidential briefs are groomed for whatever level their president is at however he or she is not going to get the full monty if it’s really high level project or operational classification.

Thank you BHO. Congress needs to act. And Hunter, in all probability knows too much because I’m sure Joey is gabby.


112 posted on 06/11/2023 11:38:29 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: mass55th

“It would mean he is still holding docs he admitted were classified, and could be subjected to further raids.”

It means nothing of the kind. Just a wishful fabrication of your aberrant brain.

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Bingo...he went right where I expected him to go. Fools do that.


113 posted on 06/12/2023 5:11:59 AM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: Vermont Lt

So people think that while indicting a former President, a member of the US Attorney’s office didn’t ask, “Do we actually have evidence?”

Until the evidence is laid out in court do fall prey to “end of the bar” lawyers. You will be disappointed with the results.

Are you fing kidding me???? He was impeached twice of Absolut fake information.

They had a special council investigate him for years over fake news and they knew it was fake from the start.

Damn dude...what cave have you been hiding in.


114 posted on 06/12/2023 5:25:23 AM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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