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Donald Trump’s Surprisingly Good Odds against the DOJ
National Review ^ | 6.9.23 | JIM GERAGHTY

Posted on 06/10/2023 6:52:31 AM PDT by conservative98

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To: HerrBlucher

AMEN!! Trumps DESERVES to be President again after getting ROYALLY SCREWED!


41 posted on 06/10/2023 8:19:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I don't know. Trump lucked out by getting a southern Florida venue instead of a DC jury. His conviction in Southern Florida is not the slam dunk it would be if it were in DC.

At least in this case. Smith still hasn't shown his hand in the January 6th case which will be tried in the DC circuit.

42 posted on 06/10/2023 8:20:36 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: Quentin Quarantino

“”but they sure have that lawfare thing mastered.””

This is what you get when the ruling class is nothing but professional career lawyer politicians.


43 posted on 06/10/2023 8:22:11 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kenmcg

“The RATS are great at judge shopping.”

And judge bribing. And judge threatening. I wonder how many horse’s heads have been delivered that we’ll never know about.


44 posted on 06/10/2023 8:23:34 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: conservative98; All

Geraghty missed the most important legal reason for the DOJ’s indicting Trump in FL—it had no other legal option, as required be Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution, which states:

“The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment;
shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State
where the said Crimes shall have been committed[.]”


45 posted on 06/10/2023 8:26:49 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: MrChips

“DJT has the right to waive a speedy trial, and that would move it until after the election.”

Wrong move. He would have no control over the actual date and they’d make shock sure it was right ‘before’ the election.

He needs to get this over with quickly so the public perception damage can be healed or lessened.


46 posted on 06/10/2023 8:27:33 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: central_va

“Florida Governor Ron DeSantis criticized the indictment of rival Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump saying there had been double standards in issuing charges.

“DeSantis also promised to fire FBI chief Christopher Wray as one of his first acts as President if elected - while suggesting that if Trump had been charged with crimes - then Hillary Clinton should have also faced charges.

‘With me, you know, you’ll have a new FBI Director on day one. We’ll clean out all these agencies on day one. We’re going to have a major overhaul.”

Central you are pedding BS as usual. You have zero credibility and are embarrasing yourself.
Give it up.


47 posted on 06/10/2023 8:32:30 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: conservative98

Florida statutes 934.03-934.09 say for a person to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication when all of the parties to the communication have given prior consent to such interception. (e) It is unlawful to intercept any wire, oral, or electronic communication for the purpose of committing any criminal act.

The supposed recording was illegal and should not be admitted into evidence.


48 posted on 06/10/2023 8:36:41 AM PDT by unlearner (RIP America. July 4, 1776 - December 13, 2022. )
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To: conservative98
We need to know more about jury selection in Miami before we celebrate how helpful that location may be for Trump.

At least 12 Miami federal grand jurors just indicted Trump on every charge presented to it by a Hard Left fanatic prosecutor.

We do not know what percentage the grand jury vote was, but we can be absolutely certain that the Department of Justice believed that a Miami grand jury would indict on every charge presented to it.

In the 2020 election, Trump lost Miami-Dade County by 7.3%.

My prediction - the best Miami outcome Conservatives can hope for is a hung jury on all charges.

49 posted on 06/10/2023 8:38:15 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: unlearner

Trump is not charged with state crimes.

All the charges are federal.


50 posted on 06/10/2023 8:39:54 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: hcmama

They are going to indict him in Washington DC as well which is obvious overkill.

This is an all out attack on conservative Americans that is not an exaggeration these charges are ridiculous from top to bottom even if he were guilty they are of no consequence and never would have been brought in any other case.


51 posted on 06/10/2023 8:41:01 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You’ve gotta give Rat Party Headquarters credit...they’re clearly utterly depraved and amoral...but they sure have that lawfare thing mastered.

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It’s clearly a political prosecution...in a long line of political prosecutions. Donald Trump can easily use this to his advantage as our legal (and political) system is looking Third-World to all but the most partisan hacks.


52 posted on 06/10/2023 8:44:16 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: zeestephen

“Trump is not charged with state crimes. All the charges are federal.”

Doesn’t matter. The evidence they’re using was obtained illegally unless the person recording had a warrant. Now perhaps the corrupt prosecution will backdate a document and claim that person was deputized in a criminal investigation and was working undercover. But Florida is a two-party consent state. That means the recording was illegal and cannot be used as evidence.

My point is that the critical evidence of a supposed recording, which is probably made up based on the witness they’ve turned, is not even legal in the first place.

They basically turned a witness with a plea deal saying that unless they have his full cooperation he’s going to prison. So they flipped him and got him to provide his recollection of a conversation which is probably faulty. Then they claim to have a recording and provide a transcript of a nonexistent recording.

I highly doubt the recording even exists. But if it does, it would have required a warrant in order to be legally admissible. The exception might be that it supposedly corroborates sworn testimony, but a judge would usually toss it. It certainly does not meet the high bar of unimpeachable evidence for the bombastic accusations being made against a former president whom the people have trusted with all of the government’s secrets.


53 posted on 06/10/2023 8:57:18 AM PDT by unlearner (RIP America. July 4, 1776 - December 13, 2022. )
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To: conservative98

I certainly hope he’s right. But Mark Levin was less optimistic when he noted that it takes a simple majority (17) to indict.


54 posted on 06/10/2023 8:58:11 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Socon-Econ
Good odds with leftist judges and a jury pool filled with Trump haters?
According to very good sources on Megyn Kelly's Friday show, the former president couldn't have asked for a better judge. The district is also favorable, but a simple majority is what is needed to indict.
55 posted on 06/10/2023 9:09:40 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: conservative98

Biden is cranking up the pressure on the DOJ to take Trump out asap he knows indictments on him are nearing on his family syndicate business he has to make sure a democrat gets elected it’s the only thing that save him and family from prison.

More money floating around D.C. than in Vegas now making the election rigging look like a craps game.


56 posted on 06/10/2023 9:20:01 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
There’s risk to be sure. He did have some documents that’s a fact not disputed.

His body man foolishly talked to the FBI and denied knowing anything about the boxes moving even though it would have been on video that he moved boxes. They are suggesting in the indictment Trump told him to lie about the boxes but don’t outright say it. That’s the “conspiracy” to keep a Trump lawyer in the dark about more boxes in the residence.

Does it suggest criminal intent? It’s hard to find. Trump clearly cares about the documents and is slowly going through the boxes himself in the residence. He didn’t want his lawyers digging through them. They are suggesting he played his lawyers without any explanation as to why. He asked for legal advice. Nothing was destroyed. He didn’t sell secrets to China or whoever.

My concern is you almost have to feel he must be guilty to make some of the leaps they are asking. It doesn’t help they misconstrued a statute in two of the charges. There’s some overreach here but I am not saying he did nothing wrong because I need more facts about what rights he possessed over documents taken with him.

57 posted on 06/10/2023 9:22:58 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: newzjunkey; All

It’s disappointing this seems more politically motivated than about protecting the United States. Isn’t that the point of starting off the document by listing candidate Trump’s campaign promises? We just need to feel certain Trump, leading candidate to oppose the sitting Democrat president, is being treated fairly which has a high burden given the history of russia hoax, etc.


58 posted on 06/10/2023 9:29:21 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: unlearner

You are assuming that Trump did not know he was being recorded. Since the purpose of the meeting was to interview him for a book that was being written about Mark Meadows, I have no doubt that he knew he was being recorded. Trump has been interviewed for enough articles and books to know that it is standard practice to record them (no one takes shorthand anymore). In fact, I am pretty confident that the tape itself will have an acknowledgment by Trump that he knows he is being recorded, as protection for the writer so he didn’t get sued later.


59 posted on 06/10/2023 9:43:09 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last!)
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To: Pirate Ragnar

DeTurdBag followers are the embarassment.


60 posted on 06/10/2023 9:57:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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