Posted on 06/08/2023 5:57:42 PM PDT by elpadre
I must say that I'm both a bit confused and disappointed in the Ukrainian Armed Forces and their behaviour on the battlefield on the Southern front. There might be an hidden tactic that will be seen in the coming days, but what we have seen since June 4th doesn't look good.
I was very disappointed in the Russian Armed Forces in the beginning of the war and surprised of the combat prowess of the ukrainian forces. While awaiting the ukrainian counteroffensive I expected ukrainian forces to act and perform better than they have. I wonder if it's a case of underestimating the russian enemy. It seems like the ukrainian forces expected the russians to buckle under pressure and just abandon their positions. I can't explain the ukrainian tactic otherwise. They are attacking with wave after wave straight into minefields and russian kill zones.
Russians are often accused of using human waves while attacking, but now it seems that the ukrainians do the same against the russian defences. That's suicide if the enemy stays and fight. Even if ukrainian forces succeed in breaking through one defenceline due to local superiority in soldiers and weaponry they are losing the bigger game with horrendous losses. They must understand that, I'm sure of it. So the only explanation is that they underestimated their russian adversary and expected them to flee.
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Uhh, no. The Russians used human wave tactics during WW2 quite extensively.
The NKVD — an earlier name for the KGB — was hated by the Russian troops for lining up soldiers and requiring them to move forward. Behind tham were NKVD machine gunns to make sure that happened.
If you were a military prisoner for some conduct problem then you got to be a mine clearing meat machine. Lots faster than traditional methods.
Stalin was a murderous jerk.
I am so sick of this war and cannot wait for it to finish.
Instead of acquiring skills, building a career, improving their county’s economy, these young men are being sent off with poor resources, insufficient defective equipment, criminally incompetent leadership, into horrific situations to get maimed or killed for nothing.
Somebody’s son. Somebody’s brother. Somebody’s father. Sent as cannon fodder because some indifferent power-hungry well-paid politician couldn’t resolve this by using their brains.
I hope all politicians (yes including our own Dubya) who start needless wars from their own incompetence, get skewered and barbecued daily in hell.
From your response you seem to be in denial. Do you perhaps still think Artyomovsk has not been captured? Perhaps still under Ukie control?
Fact is the battle lasted for almost a year, and with Ivan’s clear superiority in aircraft and artillery, I am surprised the Ukies didn’t lose more. Video confirmation showed many high rise buildings fully collapse with Vlads newer glide bombs- you can think what you wish, but to think somehow Ukraine is “ winning” is very unrealistic….I don’t see Vlad begging for money, arms, equipment, tanks, aircraft, men, supplies, medicines, fuel, etc from every country on the planet.
We are seeing the results of the Joe Biden curse. He wanted to destroy the Russian military. Instead he made it a much larger and more lethal force. His next goal was regime change in Russia. If I was Zelensky I would have my bags packed and an airplane waiting on the runway to take me out of the country. He also wanted to destroy the Russian economy but he has damaged America’s and Europe’s economies instead. I hope he doesn’t try to damage Russia any other way because in the end he always screws America instead.
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Exactly, that’s why I now call senile Joe “ Boomerang Joe”.
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