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HUGE Losses On Day 1 Of Ukrainian Counteroffensive w/ @Kalibratedwithscott
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Posted on 06/05/2023 8:28:20 AM PDT by ganeemead

Great "Counteroffensive" seems to have run into a brick wall of sorts


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: commies4putinswar; communistpropaganda; newsforumabuse; russia; russianpropaganda; ukraine; vatnik
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1 posted on 06/05/2023 8:28:20 AM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

The globalists only smile as this meat grinder continues to churn.


2 posted on 06/05/2023 8:30:31 AM PDT by allendale
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To: ganeemead
If the Russian Defense Ministry says so, then it must be true, right?

We're supposed to believe this guy?


3 posted on 06/05/2023 8:33:29 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: allendale

Bakhmute gave a preview of the actual fighting ability of the NATO proxy army. It does not matter how much money has been spent and how much advanced weaponry they have been given, the best they can do is hit and run strikes against the Russians. No one in charge actually expected that this was going to go well. They were just hoping for a few good photo ops and more propaganda opportunities to keep the funding going, because that is what it really is all about


4 posted on 06/05/2023 8:38:49 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: allendale

Jackson Hinkle is a Putin simp. He’s been posting a shitstorm of misinformation on Youtube for months.


5 posted on 06/05/2023 8:41:56 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: ganeemead

“ ANALYSIS UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVE OPERATIONS JUNE 4
June 4th UkrAF scaled up offensive operations on the Southern Front, but the losses are too high for long time success. Earlier operations were mainly reconnaissance in force with platoon and company sized combat groups. Yesterday the ukrainian forces seemed to be battalion sized combat groups. According to Russian MoD 8 UkrAF battalions was involved in offensive operations SE of Mala Tokmachka (1), at the Vremivka salient (2) and East of Vuhledar towards Velikonovoselovka (3). The fighting was intense, but on most places ukrainian forces was turned back, mainly by intense russian artillery and air attacks. On some places UkrAF succeeded in capturing a couple of hundred meters.

“There are two different media stories about the fighting. The ukrainian side is very quiet about both the attacks and eventual losses on their side. Russian sources are much more liberal with information, both in text and videos. IF the russian information is correct, this explains the ukrainian silence, since the ukrainian side seldom concedes major losses on their side and tries to shift attention to other subjects.

“According to the russian side, ukrainian losses amount at least 10 tanks, nearly 40 IFVs or APCs and at least 250 eliminated (KIA or very badly WIA). With this number of eliminated, the number of wounded would probably be 750-1000.

“Are these numbers true, the prospects for a ukrainian counteroffensive looks very dim. This is even if we don’t take into account the ongoing intense russian air and artillery offensive against UkrAF troop concentrations, ammunition and fuel depots.

“With losses of over 1000 KIA and WIA that means that a ukrainian brigade of 4000 man loose at least 25 percent of its manpower. That’s on the brink of making a brigade unusable. Two days fighting with such losses would destroy a brigades battle capability. 24 days with such losses would in effect destroy the entire fist of 12 brigades UkrAF has gathered for the counteroffensive. With losses of around 12 brigades, 25 000 KIA/WIA, 250 tanks and 1000 IFVs/APCs all the strategic reserves UkrAF has built during the last 6 months would be gone. In exchange the ukrainian side could have advanced maybe 10 km on some places or more generally 2-3 km along maybe half the southern front.

“Once again, IF the russian claims are true, RuAF must feel relieved and UkrAF very worried by the results of the fighting on the Southern front June 4th.

- Mikael Valtersson, Twitter

https://twitter.com/mikaelvalterss1/status/1665646597688946692?s=46


6 posted on 06/05/2023 8:45:07 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Hi Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: ganeemead

When you broadcast far and wide about your great (spring, summer, whatever) counter-offensive, maybe just maybe it gives the other side time to prepare. They should have listened to Tuco.


7 posted on 06/05/2023 8:48:39 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Timber Rattler

I hate to break it to you

Yes both sides lie

But the Russian mouthpieces and orgs have been far more accurate than nearly all western media

Russian sourcing aside from some telegram activists have been around 80%

Nearly all western sourcing is just BS

Factual bad news is relegated to back pages or small print

Imagine western media going full blown on the Pregozhian versus Russian military and defense squabble publicly were it Ukraine army?

It’d be suppressed

Russian based info however flawed is far more accurate than what you link daily


8 posted on 06/05/2023 8:51:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (Technology is not by default an improvement )
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To: Timber Rattler

You are being willfully ignorant here day after day... It is all propaganda 100% of the time from both sides. The only “winners” are the oligarchs who are making $Billions. Last year this conflict created 22 new $Billionaires in Russia, and the billionaires in the west have profited big time as well. How? Largely through a bunch of under the table deals that kept Russia’s oil flowing to those who wanted it regardless of the “sanctions”. And on both sides by being the recipients of massive amounts of taxpayer funding for “high-tech” weaponry.

This “offensive” is just one more fart in the wind. Our corrupt puppet regime has not delivered and will likely be thrown under the bus soon by Biden and the rest of NATO. When the funding and the kickbacks come under more scrutiny they all go away. The United States has no more strategic interests in the now destroyed country of Ukraine.


9 posted on 06/05/2023 8:52:52 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: allendale

The war to make the world safe for perverts grinds on...

https://ua.usembassy.gov/joint-statement-on-the-lgbtiq-pride-month-in-ukraine/


10 posted on 06/05/2023 8:53:53 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Timber Rattler; Monterrosa-24; ought-six; PIF; marcusmaximus; USA-FRANCE; tlozo; Williams; ...

Pooty Pals have such reliable info sources.


11 posted on 06/05/2023 8:54:25 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: wardaddy
Russian based info however flawed is far more accurate than what you link daily

Nonsense.

12 posted on 06/05/2023 8:56:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Russia has air dominance on their side of the front.

Its impossible to move armor to that side and survive.


13 posted on 06/05/2023 8:58:30 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ganeemead

No dog in the fight but this is from a credible observer.

Important recent talk by Mearsheimer on current status of Ukraine War and what’s likely to happen next. Mearsheimer is the leading scholar of International Relations, and his predictions about the conflict have been highly accurate going back a decade.

Key points:

(1) Current status:
— The Russians are winning the war. Ukraine had the upper hand in 2022 but Russia has it in 2023. The Russians have not won yet, but Mearsheimer believes they are winning and will win the war. Why?
— This is a war of attrition similar to WWI. The goal is to bleed out the other side. “This is Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier standing toe to toe and beating the hell out of each other in the center of the ring.”
— Who wins a war of attrition? 3 factors decide: (1) Balance of resolve. (Both sides are resolved.) (2) Population. (3) Artillery.
— Russia had a 3.5 to 1 population advantage at the beginning of the war. This has grown to about 5:1 as a result of 8+ million Ukrainian refugees, 3M of which have gone to Russia.
— Artillery is the “king of battle.” Balance of artillery is somewhere between 5:1 and 10:1 in Russia’s favor. The US doesn’t have enough artillery to give Ukraine; that’s why we’re talking about tanks and planes. “Two armies standing toe to toe trying to destroy each other with firepower.” Russia has a lot more men and artillery.
— Casualty Exchange Ratio is at least 2:1, meaning that two Ukrainians are likely dying for every Russian. The Ukrainians’ claim of 7:1 CER in their favor is ludicrous. The Russians are not doing mindless frontal assaults. Recent RUSI report shows that Russian tactics have improved.
— Ukraine pushed large numbers of troops into Bakhmut in a losing effort. Ukrainians are becoming desperate to conscript men. Russia has not fully mobilized yet.

(2) What’s likely to happen next:
— Russia will take the 4 oblasts they already annexed plus (if they can) another 4 oblasts to the Dnipro River including Odessa and Kharkiv. The goal would be to bring all the ethnic Russians under their control to avoid another “Donbas problem.”
— Russia doesn’t want to take western Ukraine (trying to conquer ethnic Ukrainians who hate them would be like “trying to swallow a porcupine”); but their goal is to turn Ukraine into a dysfunctional rump state so it can’t threaten them or be used as a Western bulwark on their border.
— There’s not going to be a peace agreement. Best case is a frozen conflict. Why? (1) the parties can’t agree on territory. (2) they can’t agree on neutrality. (3) Hyper-nationalism. Hatred on both sides makes a deal impossible. (4) No trust. Western leaders and Zelensky admitted that they had no intention of honoring the Minsk agreements and entered them just to buy time.
— George Kennan, Adm. Bill Perry, Amb. Jack Matlock, and Gen. Shalikashvili said that NATO expansion was a prescription for disaster. They were right. It’s only going to get worse. Mearsheimer hopes to be wrong about this, but this is his prediction.
— F16s won’t make a difference because it takes a long time to train good pilots. Also the Russians have very good air defense, and their own Air Force is ready to engage. Biggest risk of F16s is that Ukraine uses them to attack targets inside of Russia, creating an escalation, which could draw the US deeper into the war.
— Mearsheimer believes that if the Russians are losing the war, the likelihood of nuclear use to rescue the situation is high. (The war is existential for the Russians.) But as it stands now, the odds of nuclear use are very low because the Russians are winning.


14 posted on 06/05/2023 8:59:04 AM PDT by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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To: Miami Rebel

What is wrong with Putin? He seems to like white people and love his country. I’d take him over what we got. We have a dictator also.


15 posted on 06/05/2023 8:59:20 AM PDT by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: wardaddy
Yes both sides lie But the Russian mouthpieces and orgs have been far more accurate than nearly all western media

Sadly, Americans get their information from the same sources that gave them: weapons of mass destruction, benghazi was caused by a youtube video, Trump's moscow pee tapes, Trump's alphabank server, Hunters Russian laptop, America's full of white supremacists, etc....

16 posted on 06/05/2023 9:01:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mariner

Good point


17 posted on 06/05/2023 9:03:21 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Hi Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: georgiarat
(The war is existential for the Russians.)

Its existential for the US deep state and NATO too. That's why they are increasingly "all in"

18 posted on 06/05/2023 9:03:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ganeemead

Polish mercenaries in Belgorod...


19 posted on 06/05/2023 9:04:28 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BillyCuccio
What is wrong with Putin? He seems to like white people and love his country.

You've answered your own question.

20 posted on 06/05/2023 9:04:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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