Posted on 06/05/2023 7:43:35 AM PDT by navysealdad
Troops’ use of patches bearing Nazi emblems risks fueling Russian propaganda and spreading imagery that the West has spent a half-century trying to eliminate. Since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine last year, the Ukrainian government and NATO allies have posted, then quietly deleted, three seemingly innocuous photographs from their social media feeds: a soldier standing in a group, another resting in a trench and an emergency worker posing in front of a truck.
In each photograph, Ukrainians in uniform wore patches featuring symbols that were made notorious by Nazi Germany and have since become part of the iconography of far-right hate groups.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Let’s not forget the Khatyn Massacre in Belarus. Ukrainian Collaborators, along with the Dirlewanger Waffen Battalion massacred 149 villagers. Some were shot, but most were burned alive. It was a damnable and evil atrocity.
The Dirlewanger Battalion, along with many Ukrainian collaborators raped and burned villages all through Eastern Belarus, burning said villagers alive.
It angers me that those atrocities are never mentioned. The media insists on painting the Ukrainians as being as pure as the driven snow.
Don’t get me wrong; I don’t blame today’s Ukrainians for past atrocities and genocides. Except the Azov Battalion, who apparently celebrate it.
The Ukrainians weren’t without blame.
You may want to research the “Khatyn Massacre”. The Schutzmannschaft Battalion, which was comprised of mostly Ukrainian volunteers and the dreaded Dirlewanger Battalion raped, shot and burned alive inhabitants of this Belarusian village. Only 2 villagers survived and 149 perished.
The film “ Come And See” portrays this massacre. It’s not pretty.
Ukrainian collaborators assisted the Nazis in the attempted genocide of Belarusians by shooting and burning Eastern Belarusians alive, along with their villages.
I don’t care what the USSR did to Ukraine; There’s absolutely no excuse for those particular Ukrainians committing such atrocities and attempting the genocide of the Belarusians.
I know that today’s Ukrainians aren’t to blame, but they have an ugly history and not all Ukrainians were “victims”.
Those are good nazis don’t you remember
Because if it is that, the Obama Administration beat them to it (from this graphic I put together back in the day):
Read my post.
Read the article, if you had you wouldn’t have asked the question in the first place.
Sorry.
I make a rule not to give even a click to the NYT, and especially not since I know they are going to throw a paywall up which they do, and I am not going to bother to work around it in some way. There is nearly nothing they can say that makes me want to read them, except to see how they are abusing the truth in general, or of symbology in particular.
Definitely not personal with you, I just don’t pollute my browser with the NYT. Not a chance.
So, I did read your post at 40.
You said it is simply “other icons”, so...what are they?
The Death’s Head symbol? The SS symbol? The “God is with us” belt buckle? Cutouts of Hitler’s face? I assume you have an account so you can read the article-can you elaborate on that without violating posting standards?
Eastern Europe is fairly unique. It is one of the most murderous places on earth. Ukraine, Poland, the Baltics, Belarus, etc.
For hundreds of years it has been nonstop war, invasion, pogrom, Stalinism, Nazism, Banderism, etc.
There are very few places that compete for it’s title for sustained mayhem. It is even generally known as the bloodlands.
It’s been almost 80 years since all that.
Not really. It went on through the mid to late 50s, and then we fanned those embers into the current conflagration. For hundreds of years that blood soaked land has turned to war and mass murder again and again.
And always pointing to the past to justify the most current one.
There is a sickness and stupidity there. And DC and London love exploiting the backward emotional thinking.
Other than wearing that patch, what does their alleged Nazism consist? A statue of Banderas? They also have a monument honoring the dead of Babi Yar. It’s unfortunate that Banderas made that symbol popular in Ukraine long after the Nazis wore out their welcome. But on parades in Latvia, the old geezers also wear that symbol on their SS uniforms. Hell’s Angels seem to like it, too.
At present, the Ukrainians are rightfully defending their homes against invasion by their former imperial masters. Nothing Nazi about that, patch notwithstanding.
The Azov Battalion, despite their use of that symbol and their many atrocities, were not Nazis. They were Cossacks. Nazis are systematic, relentlessly-monstrous man machines. Cossacks are monstrous, too, but their crimes are crimes of passion. They’re wild men. They wake up in the morning hung over and full of regrets.
Let me guess. The Russian operation was started to remove the Nazis whereas the Western narrative was that the problem is not there.
Now they have found the Nazis and it is allegedly helping Russian propaganda.
It is mightly “1984” over there or are they hinting that the Russians were right since day one?
They are actually trying to justify and diminish the seriousness of the Nazi symbolism that the Ukrainian soldiers wear. They are trying hard, but, There’s nothing they can say to make it ok. This article makes it even more disgusting. Wow.
If you haven’t seen many photos by now, you must be purposefully in denial.
But, we are sending billions of our tax dollars to soldiers wearing Nazi symbolism and training those same soldiers too.
Show me one.
Is this the equivalent of the American Civil War? The south made slavery the issue therefore a foreign power like the UK could not intervene on their behalf? Will we see the US back away from the Ukraine over this?
Ukrainian itself is a modern concept no? As close back in history as the 1400 there were just people who were part of Rus. There were no Russians? Or Ukrainians? Just the people of Moscow, Kiev and Novgorod.
It would be an educational experience for you to do some research on this topic.
Did you watch Ukraine on Fire?
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