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Turkish support in Germany for Erdogan fuels integration debate
France 24 ^

Posted on 06/01/2023 3:49:08 AM PDT by FarCenter

Strong backing for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan among Turks in Germany in last weekend's historic election has sparked renewed soul-searching about whether Berlin's attempts to integrate the minority are failing.

There were scenes of jubilation in some German cities after Erdogan extended his two-decade rule in Sunday's runoff vote, with cars decked out with flags driving through the streets and honking.

Germany -- home to the world's biggest Turkish community overseas -- had about 1.5 million registered voters in the polls, and Erdogan received some 67 percent of votes cast.

That is far above the 52 percent share of the vote Turkey's longest-serving leader garnered at home, where he had to overcome strong competition from secular challenger Kemal Kilicdaroglu.

That so many voters in a liberal European democracy opted for a ruler frequently accused of pursuing increasingly authoritarian policies sparked fresh debate over Berlin's integration policies.

Most of those celebrating Erdogan's victory in Germany "were born here, went to school here, enjoy freedom and prosperity, but consider the 'West' the realm of evil," read a commentary piece in conservative daily the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

"It is a truism that is now being echoed from left to right -- something is going wrong with integration in Germany."

The results fed into a political row on a plan by the coalition government, led by the left-leaning SPD, to ease the path to gaining German citizenship and make it easier to become a dual citizen, which is almost impossible under current rules.

"After this Turkish election, the (coalition) should finally have understood: 'turbo-naturalisation' and dual citizenship for all are the wrong way," Andrea Lindholz, a lawmaker from the right-wing CSU party told the Bild tabloid.

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: erdogan; germany; nato; russia; sweden; syria; turkey; ukraine

1 posted on 06/01/2023 3:49:08 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Germans don’t have kids much, but Turks do.

So it won’t be very long until “Germany” is just another Turkish country.

It is the German population that will need to be integrated into their Turkish future.

Demographics are destiny.

Turks are not the native people of Turkey, either.


2 posted on 06/01/2023 3:57:15 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: FarCenter
It wasn't that long ago:


3 posted on 06/01/2023 4:02:34 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: FarCenter

Just wait until Muslims are 20% of the population.

The trannies, homosexuals, feminist, and prostitutes in the media are going to get what they deserve.


4 posted on 06/01/2023 4:02:51 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: FarCenter
sparked renewed soul-searching about whether Berlin's attempts to integrate the minority are failing

It's getting a bit late in the day for this kind of foolishness.

5 posted on 06/01/2023 4:06:05 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: FarCenter

2056

Effective immediately, all textbooks are to be replaced by the Koran.

The Minister of Education will make further efforts to ensure Germans in his charge are fluent in both Arabic and Turkish. No decision has been taken about continued funding for female education beyond the basic six years.


6 posted on 06/01/2023 4:08:39 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Mount Athos

There’s been a study done (back in 2019 period), which notes that it’s true...1st generation Turks in Germany have more kids. 2nd generation? Back to 1 and 2 kids scheme like Germans. University folks say expensive cost of raising kids confronts 2nd generation Turks, and they adjust to the German standard.


7 posted on 06/01/2023 4:17:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: FarCenter
--- Germany -- home to the world's biggest Turkish community overseas -- had about 1.5 million registered voters in the polls, and Erdogan received some 67 percent of votes cast.

And then there's this other side to consider: "Germany's Largest Right-Wing Extremist Group is Turkish, not German," Gatestone Institute.

Source: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17486/germany-extremists-grey-wolves

8 posted on 06/01/2023 7:20:28 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: FarCenter

These will be the foot-soldiers for the new Ottoman Empire when they invade Europe.


9 posted on 06/01/2023 7:23:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FarCenter
The endless talk about "integration" is a gigantic diversionary scam.

The only viable way is assimilation.

Erdogan once said "assimilation is genocide," which pretty much proves the point.

10 posted on 06/01/2023 8:08:34 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Hitler would approve, he preferred Islam to “flabby” Christianity.


11 posted on 06/01/2023 8:09:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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