[hanamizu]

Except it did NOT mean everyone born in the US were citizens, because American Indians were given citizenship many years AFTER the 14th Amendment was passed.

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But at the time of the 14th American Indians were not considered ‘under the jurisdiction of the U.S.’ They were, considered sovereign (and in some respects, they still kind of, are). That’s why agreements with Indians are called ‘treaties’. Tribal or treaty Indians did not receive automatic U.S. citizenship until the 20’s I think.

None of this is to say that birthright citizenship is right or proper or even mandated by the intent of the writers of the 14th. But it is how that passage has been interpreted. Congress’s passage of a law ending it would pretty much force a SCOTUS decision on the issue, but I think that would be a tough bill to get passed.

[ExTxMarine]

I agree, it would be nearly impossible for Congress to get a law passed so that it could get to SCOTUS for a ruling.

But, you know the easier, quicker way for it to get to SCOTUS for a ruling...an Executive Order!

GAME! SET! MATCH! Trump for the win!

[ExTxMarine]

But at the time of the 14th American Indians were not considered ‘under the jurisdiction of the U.S.’

And yet, we had Indians who were arrested, imprisoned, and even executed by the United States for crimes committed within the United States during this timeframe (from the passage of the 14th to the Indian Citizenship law).

This would seem to make the whole "jurisdiction thereof" not just meaning "subject to the local laws and ordinances". So, it would seem that the importance was about to whom else they may owe allegiance.

Illegals have a RIGHT to be given a US TAXPAYER-FUNDED ATTORNEY and the right to speak to their respective embassies for ADDITIONAL legal advice and assistance. That would seem to be something we Americans don't have...because we are only legally bound to the jurisdiction (control of) the United States. Illegals are legally bound to their home countries; they are subject to the jurisdiction (control of) their home country!