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Donald Trump to appear by video as judge in criminal case reinforces ban on attacking witnesses
Associated Press ^ | May 23, 2023 | Michael R. Sisak

Posted on 05/23/2023 10:47:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A recent $5 million defamation verdict hasn’t kept Donald Trump quiet. Will a stern warning from the judge in his Manhattan criminal case?

That’s the question looming over a hybrid hearing Tuesday where the former president is set be instructed on new rules barring him from using evidence in the hush-money case to attack witnesses who could testify against him.

Trump won’t have to show up to court for the afternoon hearing at a Manhattan courthouse, avoiding the mammoth security and logistical challenges that accompanied his arraignment last month.

Instead, the Republican will be connected by video conference, with his face beamed onto courtroom TV monitors. His lawyers and prosecutors must still appear in person. […]

The judge in Trump’s criminal case, Juan Manuel Merchan, issued a protective order May 8 listing restrictions on Trump’s pretrial behavior. He agreed to take the extra step of personally instructing him on the rules in light of Trump’s public persona and status as a current presidential candidate.

Trump is allowed to speak publicly about the criminal case, according to Merchan’s order, but he risks being held in contempt if he uses evidence turned over by prosecutors in the pretrial discovery process to target witnesses or others involved in the case. …

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bs; bsjudge; fifthamendment; fourthamendment; judgebreaksthelaw; merchan; sixthamendment; tds; unconstitutional
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To: enumerated

Thank you.

Amazing we have to point out the obvious.


21 posted on 05/23/2023 12:06:22 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Fury

Try the Sixth Amendment.


22 posted on 05/23/2023 12:11:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Okay, provide some cases that are on point for a violation of President Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.


23 posted on 05/23/2023 12:16:56 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Olog-hai
This appears to be a contempt trap. The court issues a somewhat ambiguous order limiting the speech of someone who has a history of incessantly shooting off tweets.

The Sword of Damocles.

24 posted on 05/23/2023 12:17:02 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Fury

They’re in bold in the OP.


25 posted on 05/23/2023 12:19:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: thegagline

That’s what they’re attempting.

But it still violates the Sixth Amendment.


26 posted on 05/23/2023 12:19:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
But it still violates the Sixth Amendment.

Pretrial gag orders are fairly common. However, they are usually there to protect the defendant. In this case, the issuance of a gag order is to set up Trump who has exhibited a lack of restraint in the past. The stage is set: Trump will be hoisted by his own petard. At least that is was the court and MSM will say.

27 posted on 05/23/2023 12:40:22 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: thegagline

This is not a gag order. It’s a refusal to admit evidence for the defendant, which violates the Sixth Amendment.

Do you love the Constitution?


28 posted on 05/23/2023 1:06:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Fury

It sure is easier to pretend things are normal and the “law” still exists. You can keep on showing respect and deference to the leftists that have perverted our institutions. As a matter of fact you should keep your head in the sand all the way to the box car.


29 posted on 05/23/2023 1:31:10 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Fury

“So you can’t speak to the law..”

What law? If there was any legal basis for the ruling, I’d speak to it, but there wasn’t - it was politically motivated.


30 posted on 05/23/2023 1:38:06 PM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: Coronal
"Frankly it’s better for him if he keeps quiet."

That's not why I voted for him twice. I voted for him because he fights back. Why would you gag someone, and tie their hands behind their back when they are being attacked? That's what liberals would do to all of us.

31 posted on 05/23/2023 1:49:40 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: DesertRhino

He can use the evidence provided by the prosecutors to defend himself in court. He just can’t use it to try the case in the court of public opinion. In other words, he can’t post or say negative things about witnesses based on information he learns from the discovery from the prosecution.


32 posted on 05/23/2023 1:54:10 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Olog-hai

This does not prevent the defense from presenting evidence in court. Or prevents Trump from publicly (outside of court) discussing the evidence he receives from the prosecution.


33 posted on 05/23/2023 1:58:04 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

That’s not what the article says.


34 posted on 05/23/2023 2:01:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Poor writing by the author. The judge was specifically talking about Trump using the information to publicly attack witnesses, like he did with the rape accuser, the judge and prosecutor in this case, and does with anyone else that annoys him. He can still publicly attack them, as long as he doesn’t use any information included in the discovery from the prosecution.


35 posted on 05/23/2023 2:04:55 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Olog-hai

Trump could easily resolve this all by simply...

- apologizing for kicking Hitlery’s ass in 2016
- telling Biteme that his 20mm “excess” votes were actually real
- acknowledging that the FIB and its Deep State partners were right to make up sh*t about him and his team and then harass him over it for 4 years
- thanking Nannie P for her two fake impeachments and wishing that the Senate had played along
- regretting his conservative SCOTUS appointments
- wishing he had bailed out of Afghanistan so LoopyJoe didn’t have to look so bad doing it himself
- wishing that he were the author of inflation
- declaring all nasty women saints
- grovelling in front of the press, begging its mercy

etc. etc.


36 posted on 05/23/2023 3:06:27 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Olog-hai

She falsely charges Trump with rape and loses that charge in court yet gets $5 million when Trump rightly calls her a liar. The ‘judge’ attended her lawyers wedding as an officiator. Trump was not allowed to enter her past charges and comments. A kangaroo court.

She has charged others with rape in the past.

YIKES: E. Jean Carroll tweeted a bunch of creepy stuff including ‘sex tips she learned from her dog’
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/11/yikes-e-jean-carroll-tweeted-a-bunch-of-creepy-stuff-including-sex-tips-she-learned-from-her-dog/
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This woman is a psycho. She paints rocks by a creek and trees blue.

Trump Accuser E. Jean Carroll Keeps Calling Rape ‘Sexy’, As Social Media Notices Her Story Matches a 2012 Law & Order Episode.
The notion is perhaps underscored by the fact that her story about Donald Trump raping her appears in a 2012 episode of Law and Order, featuring rape fantasists and the very same Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing rooms she claims the former President used in an attack on her.

Carroll – a Law and Order fan – first made her allegations against Trump in a 2019 book.

Among other things, Kaplan has ruled that Trump’s team cannot bring up the fact that Carroll’s litigation has been funded by Democrat billionaire Reid Hoffman.Despite having initially claimed the litigation was not receiving outside funding, she recently and apparently quite suddenly recalled that, in fact, it has had the financial backing of Reid Hoffman, a billionaire Democrat who previously “contributed more than $600,000 to the legal defense fund of… Fusion GPS, the company responsible for the creation of the Steele Dossier,” according to Trump’s legal team.

Carroll has alleged she has been subject to sexual assaults and rapes or attempted rapes by a long list of “hideous men” and others, including “a bloodthirsty, beautiful, relentless boy” aged seven or eight when she was also a child, a babysitter’s boyfriend, a camp counsellor, a dentist, an unnamed pocket knife-wielding youth she went on a date with in college, an unnamed former boss, CBS chief executive Les Moonves, and finally, Donald Trump.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/05/03/e-jean-carroll-keeps-calling-rape-sexy-law-and-order/


37 posted on 05/23/2023 3:56:08 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: CA Conservative

That info is in the context of the courtroom. Trump is certainly not out to taint any jury.


38 posted on 05/23/2023 4:18:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

You can’t speak to what Trump’s intentions or goals are. But regardless, as long as he doesn’t use any evidence revealed by the prosecution, Trump can publicly say what he wants about the case.


39 posted on 05/23/2023 8:32:39 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstanc)
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To: CA Conservative

Eh?

Why is he not free to use “evidence revealed by the prosecution” in his favor? which this extrajudicial decree does not seem to specify either way?


40 posted on 05/23/2023 10:52:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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