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Debt limit talks stall AGAIN: Republican walks out of White House meeting and criticizes 'unreasonable' demands as bid to avoid a catastrophic default in 13 days comes to another standstill - while Biden is in Japan
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 19 2023 | MORGAN PHILLIPS

Posted on 05/19/2023 11:13:51 AM PDT by knighthawk

Debt ceiling talks are now on 'pause,' according to House Republicans, after all sides expressed hope earlier this week that there could be a deal on the horizon.

Rep. Garrett Graves followed White House negotiators out of a meeting in the speaker's office and told reporters they had pressed pause on negotiations.

He called talks 'not productive' and said the Biden administration was making 'unreasonable' requests.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: debtceiling; debtlimit; garrettgraves
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1 posted on 05/19/2023 11:13:51 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk

Let it default, best thing that could happen. They have everyone brainwashed into thinking the sky is going to fall. It will not. The bills are already paid quite a bit ahead of time. It is all BS.


2 posted on 05/19/2023 11:18:35 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: knighthawk

We won’t default, we have more than enough cash flow to pay debt payments. What would be catastrophic to the dems is that we’d have to cut spending elsewhere.


3 posted on 05/19/2023 11:21:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

It’s not even a spending cut, it is a reduction in the rate of spending growth.


4 posted on 05/19/2023 11:23:21 AM PDT by FMBass (Que sais Je)
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To: 1Old Pro

A krewe that can bomb the nordstream pipeline, can orchestrate a USA default


5 posted on 05/19/2023 11:24:00 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: knighthawk

Biden and the Dems have no intention to cut even a penny in their desired spending and borrowing. They will blame the Republicans and bring out all the rhetorical devices to paint them as extreme, unfeeling creeps.
Just keep adding trillions to our debt and watch America crumble, but it’s always the other party’s fault.


6 posted on 05/19/2023 11:26:21 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: knighthawk

Let it go. Better than going along with whatever the destructive dims want.


7 posted on 05/19/2023 11:31:41 AM PDT by grimalkin (Communism is the final logic of the dehumanization of man. -Fulton J. Sheen)
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To: knighthawk

If we default then someone picks which bills can’t be paid until the money is available.

They will be domestic expenditures, the default will consist of paying only, say, 90% of what is owed and the rest of it later. Postponements can be chosen that won’t leave the needy (such as our precious illegal immigrants) to die.

Promises must be paid or postponed. Things not promised can be cut.

The democrats will portray the cuts or postponements as disastrous and merciless.


8 posted on 05/19/2023 11:32:02 AM PDT by cymbeline
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the default will consist of paying only, say, 90% of what is owed and the rest of it later.

Our debt service can easily be covered by what comes in/cash flow.

9 posted on 05/19/2023 11:34:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: knighthawk

Isn’t it reported that we run out of spending more than we have is Tomorrow according to DEM?!


10 posted on 05/19/2023 11:35:23 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: knighthawk

The remarks on the financial pages are funny.

Calling it the Grand Orange Party.

The financial pages are excoriating dementia joe as well.


11 posted on 05/19/2023 11:38:15 AM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: knighthawk

Note that he’s not negotiating with Biden, but “white house negotiators”.

Biden doesn’t matter and everyone knows it.

The US presidency is effectively run by a committee. It would be interesting to know who those “white house negotiators” are. They are the executive leadership of this country.


12 posted on 05/19/2023 11:43:06 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: grimalkin

AGREE, let it go.

No matter what GOP does, the specter of MASSIVE DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD again in 2024, like in 2020 and like in 2016 will make this entire exercise a moot point.

With that thought in mind, DEFAULT!!!!! It really doesn’t matter.


13 posted on 05/19/2023 11:44:36 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: knighthawk

THE DEMOCRATS ARE STALLING TO FORCE THE REPUBLICANS TO LIFT THE DEBT CEILING WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. IF THE GOP CAVES, WE’RE DEAD ECONOMICALLY. IF THEY HOLD THE LINE THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE TO HURT PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THE GOP BACK TO THE TABLE. JUST SUFFER. HOLD THE LINE!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 05/19/2023 11:52:55 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: knighthawk

What are the requests? The dems always have talking points ready for their complaints real or not. SS getting gutted, social safety net being cut. They always lose the battle of sound bites. Being unreasonable does not cut it.


15 posted on 05/19/2023 11:56:22 AM PDT by pas
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To: Paladin2

I don’t think a Mardi Gras type social club “krewe” bombed the pipeline-probably a “crew” of demolition types, but either one could orchestrate a default if they are turned loose...


16 posted on 05/19/2023 12:09:34 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: 1Old Pro
What would be catastrophic to the dems is that we’d have to cut spending elsewhere.

They will start by eliminating military budgets, Social Security payments, Medicare and Border Patrols.

17 posted on 05/19/2023 12:10:58 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: OHPatriot

“With that thought in mind, DEFAULT!!!!! It really doesn’t matter.”

Now or later, it’s coming.


18 posted on 05/19/2023 12:26:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: knighthawk

IF anyone was paying attention in previous debt battles then would know that the Interest on the debt gets paid no matter what. It gets paid from current cash flow before anything else.


19 posted on 05/19/2023 12:30:17 PM PDT by Revel
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“Our debt service can easily be covered by what comes in/cash flow.”

Assuming what you say is true, why the panic talk about defaulting?

Cash flow to service the debt wouldn’t be enough to meet our obligations to fund the programs we’ve committed to. Is that correct?

Could it be that the recipients of the promised money have themselves will be in trouble if they don’t receive the promised money?


20 posted on 05/19/2023 5:03:42 PM PDT by cymbeline
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