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DeSantis asked if Trump lost due to fraud, points to recent, frequent Republican defeats
Florida's Voice ^ | May. 15, 2023, 12:03 p.m. ET | Eric Daugherty

Posted on 05/15/2023 9:14:43 AM PDT by conservative98

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To: DiogenesLamp

Sometimes if someone is beating you and no recourse is given, you must get down in the dirt. If we mirror what the democrats have done and then point out if scrutinized that it was the same thing there is judicial precedent that orefenrd hsrm.

Otherwise enjoy permanent minority status in the government.


141 posted on 05/15/2023 3:15:14 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: srmanuel
play the game using Democratic rules and have a better chance of winning.

The problem is they won't let you play by their rules. If you watched any of the election night action you saw that republican poll watchers were excluded from even being in the building where ballots were being counted or maybe held so far away from the ballots they couldn't actually see anything. Many counting stations ignored courts orders to allow closer observation and all without consequence.

142 posted on 05/15/2023 3:16:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Kickaha

Yeah, it sucks being promised we were going to get sick of all the winning only to watch this gasbag go down to some stiff in his basement.


143 posted on 05/15/2023 3:47:22 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: srmanuel

Interesting bit about Joe Lombardo. And yes, Arizona and Nevada have corrupt elections. I think if they were cleaned up, most of the elections in the Nation would look like Florida.


144 posted on 05/15/2023 3:47:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Florida always used to be a squeaker of a race, and suddenly it is lopsided by 20% after you scared the bejezzus out of election cheats?

You want to hazard a guess as to why DeSantis did not just say that he won big because he reduced voter fraud? Could it be because it would tend to lend credence to trump's assertion his election was stolen?

145 posted on 05/15/2023 3:52:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: gas_dr
Sometimes if someone is beating you and no recourse is given, you must get down in the dirt. If we mirror what the democrats have done and then point out if scrutinized that it was the same thing there is judicial precedent that orefenrd hsrm.

They are unshameable. Their DAs will prosecute us, while letting them go. The Courts are worthless and incompetent when they are not outright corrupted by ideology or graft.

Otherwise enjoy permanent minority status in the government.

There may be other means of changing the dynamics. People need to brainstorm and come up with ideas that will work. I very greatly doubt we can match them in ballot harvesting because we cannot get away with the corrupt methods they use.

But I would very much like to be wrong about this.

146 posted on 05/15/2023 3:56:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: itsahoot
You want to hazard a guess as to why DeSantis did not just say that he won big because he reduced voter fraud? Could it be because it would tend to lend credence to trump's assertion his election was stolen?

And that is a very strong possibility. DeSantis does not want to lend credibility to Trump, or help him in any way.

DeSantis is bungling this. If he takes on Trump, he's likely going to lose whatever support he would have for a run in 2028. He can't possibly beat Trump in the primary, and he is listening to all the wrong people.

147 posted on 05/15/2023 3:58:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MountainWalker
Yeah, it sucks being promised we were going to get sick of all the winning only to watch this gasbag go down to some stiff in his basement.

This statement shows an incredible lack of awareness of what is going on in reality.

Are you one of those that is also blaming him for not finishing the wall?

Unreal.

148 posted on 05/15/2023 4:04:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MountainWalker

Good luck with your loser party.


149 posted on 05/15/2023 4:09:01 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: srmanuel

It’s hard to harp on a problem that actually exists and particularly one that is of such significance.

“You can’t make changes to election laws until you actually win elections first.”

While that’s true, do you have a plan for winning an election when the system is already rigged against you? It’s a difficult situation to be in. And while there may be legitimate differences of opinion on the best options available moving forward, not talking about the problem isn’t one of them.


150 posted on 05/15/2023 4:37:13 PM PDT by mbrfl (That's my Governor! Yes, that's right. That over-hyped Establishment tool is my Governor.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
In 2020 there were 9600, and they were not actual ballots. They were copies of images of ballots on 8x11 printer paper, and they were all for Joe Biden at the rate of 95%.

Were they all really xerox copies? I don't doubt there was cheating, and it's likely that there was enough cheating to sway three states to Biden and give him the election.

Most of the fraudulent ballots in the states in question (and other states) would probably have been real ballots, collected and filled out by Democrat operatives. They wouldn't have looked any different from other ballots, so there would be no way to tell which ballots or how many ballots were fraudulent.

When I said "We don't know who really won," I meant something like the 1960 election. "We" sort of know that Kennedy stole the election, but not everyone will agree with that and it can't be "proven" in a way that would stand up in court, so "we" as a country will be arguing about this until the end of America.

151 posted on 05/15/2023 4:40:12 PM PDT by x
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To: libh8er
Rob Sanctus has previously said Trump should have accepted defeat in 2020 and moved on. Also blamed him for Jan 6th.

If he said that, he's right. Not much we can do about 2020, it is what it is. Jan 6th was a trap. Trump should have seen it coming. Bad political instincts.

152 posted on 05/15/2023 4:42:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: srmanuel

“When the grammar police start coming out...”

No, lamebrain. What I was using is called rhetoric, not grammar.


153 posted on 05/15/2023 4:57:06 PM PDT by odawg
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To: lodi90
Trump left his J6ers to rot in the DC gulag. He didn't lift a finger to help them. I guess that's ok, though.

That's rich.   When the J-6 arrests were made President Trump was no longer in office and was facing an unlawful Impeachment himself.   He didn't lift a finger to help them while Democrats and GOP elites were accusing President Trump of orchestrating the whole shebang.

YACITESAD

154 posted on 05/15/2023 5:21:44 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Pay that guy no mind. Zeeper trolls hate Trump for his stance on ending the Ukraine Joe Biden war.


155 posted on 05/15/2023 5:27:34 PM PDT by dforest
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To: MountainWalker

You are missing, of course, the entire point I made. Or are you being deliberately obtuse? You envy Donald Trump because he has talent and drive. Your crack about his inheritance clearly shows it.
But I’m sure that you could have taken the Big Apple by storm with nothing but a subway token and a dollar tucked inside your shoe, like a rhinestone cowboy.
You probably envy Glen Campbell too, because he had talent and drive.


156 posted on 05/15/2023 6:17:16 PM PDT by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam )
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To: DiogenesLamp

You’re gd right I am. He waited 2 f’n years to get what he should have gotten the money as the first order of business, and now look at what’s happening.


157 posted on 05/15/2023 7:54:45 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: Kickaha

Guy was born in 3rd base and you act like it was the best triple you’ve ever seen. Pfft.


158 posted on 05/15/2023 8:01:52 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: conservative98

If Desantis can’t see the obvious, massive fraud that put Biden in the White House, then he’s way too blind to be President.


159 posted on 05/15/2023 8:04:03 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Jan 6th was a trap. Trump should have seen it coming. Bad political instincts.

In order to have been prepared for that fake Reichstag fire perpetrated by government agents, you would have had to believe the government agencies are completely evil, out of control, and willing to break all sorts of laws.

I don't think any of us were that far gone back in January of 2021. Nobody would have believed they were that corrupt.

160 posted on 05/15/2023 8:28:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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