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Ukraine’s Advances Near Bakhmut Expose Rifts in Russian Forces
The New York Times ^ | May 12, 2023 | Marc Santora and Andrew E. Kramer

Posted on 05/13/2023 3:28:57 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

The Ukrainian Army is advancing in attacks near the eastern city of Bakhmut, Ukrainian commanders said on Friday, in fighting that has shifted the front line only slightly but is exposing fissures, confusion and alarm among Russia’s forces in the war.

Russia’s pro-war bloggers were quick to claim that Ukraine’s long-anticipated counteroffensive had begun, but Ukrainian officials downplayed the advances and described them in more local terms. Ukrainian soldiers broke through Russian lines south of Bakhmut on Wednesday, they said, and then exploited that breach, assaulting Russian forces near the city and threatening Russian flanks to the north and south.

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A retreat from Bakhmut, a city that lacks strategic importance but has become a symbolic prize, would represent an embarrassing setback for the Russian military. Russia has not captured a Ukrainian city since last July, and had pressed ahead into Bakhmut despite soaring losses.

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Ukrainian advances this week have cut through Russian lines in the largest bulge by only about three miles, but the success erased what Moscow’s forces had painstakingly achieved over several months.

That presents Russia with a difficult choice. If Russia does not reinforce the flanking positions around Bakhmut, it risks a politically humiliating setback. But if it diverts reserve forces toward the city, it could weaken defenses in the south, where many analysts expect Ukraine to strike toward the Sea of Azov in an attempt to cut off a supply route to occupied Crimea.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
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1 posted on 05/13/2023 3:28:57 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

We’re just not smart enough to see how brilliant Putin is. The Russians have figured out how inadequate they are to question Putin. This is why they stay drunk and trust in Putin. Whereas we idiots in the west think we can question Putin. It’s beyond arrogance. It’s blasphemy!


2 posted on 05/13/2023 3:47:25 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Timber Rattler

Get Ukraine everything they need to defeat putin/russia


3 posted on 05/13/2023 4:42:37 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

“Get Ukraine everything they need to defeat putin/russia”

I agree.


4 posted on 05/13/2023 4:45:05 AM PDT by Armscor38
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To: Timber Rattler
It's getting sad to see the Biden supporters on this site using rags like the NY Times to spread deep state propaganda. Are we suppose to believe the liberal liars now because you agree with them? Are we suppose to believe that Biden, Rice, Soros, Hillary, etc are now working in America's best interest? These are the same scumbags who are destroying our country all around us. You really believe they are involved in this war because they want to help America and Ukraine? That's a joke.
5 posted on 05/13/2023 5:03:51 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: Timber Rattler

two Russian Mi 8 helicopters, one Su 34 bomber and one Su 35C fighter were shot down today. Most Russian aircraft lost in a day since beginning of war.


6 posted on 05/13/2023 5:07:20 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Timber Rattler

So with our Border exploding with an invasion and the US in turmoil - all you care about is this Ukrainian Crap - you must be getting paid well to keep pushing this manure pile.


7 posted on 05/13/2023 5:19:04 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Rdct29

If we don’t like Putin and his war we’re Biden supporters? I detest Biden as a corrupt, stupid old man, and I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat for anything. I guess that means I have to go along with Putin’s aggression.


8 posted on 05/13/2023 5:19:31 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Good shooting.


9 posted on 05/13/2023 5:20:04 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: marcusmaximus
Some of the shoot downs may be "friendly fire".

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1657348920584949760

10 posted on 05/13/2023 5:27:10 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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Russia shot down their own helicopter over Crimea yesterday, too. What Russian air defense doing?


11 posted on 05/13/2023 5:31:22 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Didn’t they shoot down a civilian airliner a few years ago?


12 posted on 05/13/2023 5:38:34 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: FtrPilot

Todays scorecard so far

MI-8 🚁
MI-8 🚁
SU-34 ✈️
SU-35 ✈️


13 posted on 05/13/2023 5:39:49 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus
I would bet that the Stormshadow attacks and the ADM-160 MALD decoy missile "attacks" are making the Surface-to-Air operators jittery.

Shoot first, ask questions later.

RU pilots that don't follow "safe passage" procedures will be shot down.

14 posted on 05/13/2023 5:50:09 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

Probably some Ukrainian HARM missions not being reported. Russian AD operators are getting nervous and trigger happy.


15 posted on 05/13/2023 6:04:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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Probably some Ukrainian HARM missions not being reported.

Most likely true.

Preemptive HARMs could force long range acquisition radars to shut down.

This forces the short range AD systems into "autonomous" mode.

In autonomous mode, every radar contact is a potential threat and the decision whether the "track" is friend or foe must be made quickly.

The fact that both sides are flying Russian aircraft complicates the identification process.

16 posted on 05/13/2023 6:24:47 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

That’s ok if the Russians hit their own planes. It is resources that you did not expend to get the same effects if you did it.


17 posted on 05/13/2023 6:39:22 AM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: FtrPilot

According to Russian Sources today has been the Worst Day in Decades for the Russian Air Force with 2 Mi-8 Transport Helicopters, 1 Su-34 Fighter/Bomber, and 1 Su-35 Air-Defense Fighter being Shot Down over the Bryansk Region of Western Russia by what is claimed to have been either Air-to-Air or Surface-to-Air Missiles which were Launched from Inside of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1657368327826571273


18 posted on 05/13/2023 6:51:33 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: FtrPilot
Russian Telegrammers:





19 posted on 05/13/2023 6:58:32 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: popdonnelly
Doesn't it make you pause when you think about the scumbags who are pushing this war? They could have prevented this war, they didn't want to. They don't give a shit about the people in Ukraine. They don't care about us either. They actually hate us. I don't give them the benefit of the doubt. They are my enemy. Democracy for Ukraine while they take ours away. That's ridiculous. It's about money. Why do you think Zelensky met with Blackrock and JP Morgan? They don't want freedom for anyone.
20 posted on 05/13/2023 7:06:29 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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