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Putin’s ‘one-tank’ military parade was an embarrassment for Russia, analysts say
CNBC.com ^ | May 10, 2023 | Holly Ellyatt

Posted on 05/10/2023 3:20:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler

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21 posted on 05/10/2023 5:27:20 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Timber Rattler

Still have out your Pom-poms for Ukraine even after it’s exposed as totally a money-laundering scheme. Solid effort propping up this heist where there is no good guy on either side, and Biden and the MIC profit as inflation soars.


22 posted on 05/10/2023 5:28:21 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Gee, I wonder where his tanks are. What a mystery.


23 posted on 05/10/2023 5:33:22 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: MTBobcat
MTBobcat
Since Mar 22, 2023

Welcome to FR.


24 posted on 05/10/2023 5:39:02 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Gee, I wonder where his tanks are. What a mystery.

Heh.


25 posted on 05/10/2023 5:41:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Libloather

Let’s suppose you *could* make an electric (EV) tank work and be combat effective.

What might that imply?

UPSIDE
EVs are virtually ‘silent’ compared to even the turbine of an Abrahms in terms of power plant noise.

EVs have 100% torque available at all RPMs. Improved maneuverability and thus lethality and survivability are likely improved.

The IR signature overall is reduced, since an EV can ‘idle’ without running an external APU or the turbine. Also less heat released during power-on use by far.

Perhaps a better crew-communications environment due to reduced internal noise.

Fewer (?) maintenance issues because there is no transmission, only direct drive.

DOWNSIDES
The *ENTIRE* logistics chain for ‘fuel’ has to change. Instead of tankers with JP-X/ diesel, you’d need a ‘boatload’ of generators and fuel for those generators.

The 69.5+ tons of an M1-A2 will likely only increase. Battery weight per joule is far higher than jet fuel. (I don’t know that number)

Ignite the battery and you’ll have a hull loss, as opposed to replace fuel tanks or power plant and move out.

Time to refuel and range are barriers to overcome. Cruising range of an M1-A2 (not battle maneuvers) is pushing 250+ cruising miles. AFAIK a tank will need approximately 300 gallons every eight hours; this will vary depending on mission, terrain, and weather. A single tank takes roughly 10 minutes to refuel. Refueling and rearming of a tank platoon—four tanks—is approximately 30 minutes under ideal conditions.

How long is a recharge for an EV M1-A2, Bradley or Stryker?

Think about just how much JP-X equivalent power generation capacity you have to have in the AO to deliver equal or better performance.

M1-A2 today (your mileage may vary)
0.6 miles per gallon.
60 gallons per hour when traveling cross-country
30+ gallons per hour while operating at a tactical ideal
10 gallons basic idle.

Retraining an entire Corps. Oof.

Personally, I’d let the SOCOM folks make it work first. I *DO* wonder what was exhibited or discussed behind the curtain at SOF Week in Tampa this week.


26 posted on 05/10/2023 5:41:48 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Timber Rattler

What does that have to do with you being a Zelensky shill? Are you profiting from this fiasco?


27 posted on 05/10/2023 5:48:31 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: Sacajaweau

More like a late 1943 model, its a T34/85.

So 80 years old. This model was made into the early 1950s (IIRC) so the actual tank might be younger.


28 posted on 05/10/2023 6:12:42 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: MTBobcat

Why are you covering for China, the actual source of nearly all foreign corruption in the US?

Whacking Ukraine is a proven distraction from the real foreign masters of the US corporate-institutional-political mafia.

And for the massive US domestic corruption, which is on a cosmic scale.

Every country on earth has some degree of payoffs to US politically connected interests, even if it is just kickbacks from US charity, because the US powers that be insist on it. BTW - the US is, by far, the most corrupt country on earth.


29 posted on 05/10/2023 6:22:04 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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It's all about the model...doesn't matter the date of that particular tank, when is was designed.

It's all about the tank that clobbered Germany...

30 posted on 05/10/2023 7:04:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Timber Rattler

14 min parade which saw the opening note of the music freak out Putin and his entourage, Putin who turned and walked away rapidly before being told it was just music, as his allies milled around in confusion.


31 posted on 05/10/2023 7:08:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Sacajaweau

Just being pedantic :)


32 posted on 05/10/2023 7:10:55 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

I had a kid who was like that...obnoxious is the better term....or PITA. lol


33 posted on 05/10/2023 7:13:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: maddog55

There’s no way of knowing if this is real or not.


No there isn’t it - was all photoshopped and craftily edited videos by Ukrainian operatives - the parade was huge with a fleets of T-14 and overflown by dozens SU-57s, while the latest ICBMs were driven along the route.

Putin did not try to run away with the opening music because it a sounded like a gun shot.

They will release the real Victory Parade footage soon.


34 posted on 05/10/2023 7:14:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Oddly other towns and cities had nice parades with T-90s and T-72s


35 posted on 05/10/2023 7:15:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s all about the tank that clobbered Germany...


Which would never have happened had the US not given Russia the materials to fight the war.


36 posted on 05/10/2023 7:18:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SSS Two

So you’ve never heard of Kremlinology. As a retired intelligence officer I can tell you that parade composition is indeed used as a data point in intelligence gathering. What equipment is used, how much, who attends, where the bigwigs sit relative to each other, how healthy they look or don’t look, etc. is all analysed and can reveal a lot about what is going on politically and militarily.


37 posted on 05/10/2023 7:27:21 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: PIF
We did, along with other countries, supply Russia. The suffered immensely but they did the job.

So here we are now...supplying Ukraine...and supplying Ukraine....and supplying Ukraine.

38 posted on 05/10/2023 7:27:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: PIF

Funny that the Muscovites still play the old “Hymn to the Soviet Union” to kick off their parades.


39 posted on 05/10/2023 7:33:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Sacajaweau

So here we are now...supplying Ukraine...and supplying Ukraine....and supplying Ukraine.


As we should


40 posted on 05/10/2023 7:37:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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