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1 posted on 05/06/2023 9:17:58 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Shotdown by Ukrainians who speak with a Jersey accent


2 posted on 05/06/2023 9:22:43 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Who to believe, indeed.

The US Navy told Congress just this January that there was no anti-missile defense against hypersonic missiles.


3 posted on 05/06/2023 9:48:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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The Patriot has evolved since it was first used in the Gulf War 30 years ago, where it failed to stop Iraqi Scud missiles. After the Gulf War in 2002 the US withdrew from the ABM treaty. Legally and diplomatically, the USSR ceased to exist and its compliance with such treaties was in name only. Practically, the more capable surface to air missiles, the Patriot (PAC-1, 2, and 3), Standard 3, S-300 and 400, had reached the point where surface to air missiles crossed into anti-ballistic missile capability.

The Kinzhal is a air launched intermediate range ballistic missile. It is "hypersonic" in the same way other ballistic missile are hypersonic. The difference is it is air launched instead of ground launched. Marketing and hype over the name does not change its performance.

This goes beyond shooting down a Kinzhal. This shows that if Ukraine can shoot down the hardest to intercept missile the Russian air force has, all of its aircraft and air launched cruise missiles are at risk.

6 posted on 05/06/2023 10:10:52 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Who to believe...

Well there are images of the missile on the ground - obviously shot down by a Patriot battery.


7 posted on 05/06/2023 10:14:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Why would anyone believe the Biden regime about anything?


8 posted on 05/06/2023 10:16:01 AM PDT by Kazan
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Who's right, indeed.

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Air Force Denies Kinzhal Missile Shooting Down Over Kyiv

"There was no Kinzhal ballistic missile shot down in the sky over Kyiv, as Russian terrorist troops did not use ballistics during the May 4 attack on the capital. It was stated in a comment to Suspilne by the speaker of the Air Force Yurii Ihnat on Friday, May 5.

A spokesman for the Air Force denied the information of Defense Express, which, citing its own sources, announced the likelihood of the downing of a Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missile over Kyiv during the May 4 attack.

"I have already refuted a thousand times, you should have seen it yesterday. There was a possibility of use, but no ballistic missiles were recorded. What some heads of military administrations say there, they have already received for this," Ihnat emphasized."

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9 posted on 05/06/2023 10:28:51 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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It would have been better if the Russian jet could have also been shot down.


11 posted on 05/06/2023 10:59:04 AM PDT by Robert357
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This didn’t happen.


12 posted on 05/06/2023 11:31:47 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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anyone except the BS Hill?


13 posted on 05/06/2023 11:31:59 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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You know they shot down one of their own drones over Kiev a couple of days ago. Good shooting.


14 posted on 05/06/2023 11:59:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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17 posted on 05/06/2023 3:08:33 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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18 posted on 05/06/2023 3:08:49 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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Ukr 3% Bakhmut

Larry Johnson: The U.S. is DELUSIONAL over Ukraine | Redacted with Clayton Morris

19 posted on 05/06/2023 7:34:24 PM PDT by Kazan
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