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Summerlin software forensics expert awarded $5M for disproving data supplied by My Pillow’s election denier
8 News NowLas Vegas ^ | 04/26/2023 | Gary Dymsky

Posted on 04/27/2023 12:35:49 PM PDT by thegagline

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To: NorthMountain

Does ANYBODY actually believe Mike Lindell had any evidence of voter fraud? I go back and forth between whether he is a fool or a liar, but lean towards fool who got duped. <——


21 posted on 04/27/2023 1:16:46 PM PDT by Wayne07
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Lindell’s team provided Zeidman with 11 files. Zeidman was able to prove that each of the files did not contain packet data and therefore cannot be election data from the November 2020 election.


22 posted on 04/27/2023 1:18:54 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: NorthMountain
Does ANYBODY actually believe that 81 million living American citizens freely, willingly, and knowingly cast one vote each for Joe Biden?

I certainly do not believe there were that many legal ballots cast for Biden. But I was not further persuaded by Lindell. I watched Lindell’s presentations and quite honestly it was very light on substance. I worked as a software engineer the vast majority of my career so I can fully understand how election machines can be rigged. I also still think it is a real possibility that some machines could have been tampered with. Lindell simply was short on substance and clearly out of his lane. He’s good at marketing to impressionable people. Beyond that he lacks intelligence, experience and knowledge.

23 posted on 04/27/2023 1:23:54 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: Wayne07

I am not claiming the election wasn’t stolen but I kept an open mind during his symposium but started to have issues with what he was pushing. He showed a before picture (actual according to Lindell) and an after picture. My biggest issue is that he didn’t explain how we went from point A to point B.

He did a great job showing machines can be hacked, but failed to prove that they were hacked. Bev Harris documented this 20 years ago.

Every instance he presented of machine counting problems were corrected. Now that doesn’t mean there weren’t mis-counts or even switched votes but I was not convinced from what he presented.

Sidney Powell with her crazy BS, did him no favors.


24 posted on 04/27/2023 1:25:12 PM PDT by DMD13
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To: thegagline

Here’s what l know: in Mi there was a small precinct that went to Biden. The people that live there knew it was impossible. So they did a hand audit and the Dominion machines had in fact flipped a percentage of votes from Trump to Biden. The precinct went back to Trump. The rat SOS said it was “just a glitch”.
The media nodded their heads and that was that. No glitch is going to move a percentage of data entries from one candidate to another. We will never know how many times it happened and the story is completely scrubbed but l am in Mi and l remember, it is the truth


25 posted on 04/27/2023 1:26:04 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: thegagline

Somebody among the “experts” on Lindell’s team (or whomever supplied *some* of the data to him), incorrectly rendered the PCAP data files that had the 2020 election network traffic.

So, the IP addresses were no longer associated with the time stamps, for example. And the HEX data was, for some unknown reason, presented in RTF (Rich Text Format) that could not be successfully reverse-engineered back into its correct form.

Basically, this network data was broken up, and it could not be re-assembled.

What Bob Zeidman “proved,” was that there was no apparent IP traffic in the data provided by Lindell’s tech. engineers, that showed the connections (vote machine < - > China or whomever) that Lindell claimed.


26 posted on 04/27/2023 1:32:26 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Fledermaus
Can’t be forced to pay. It’s not different than a friendly bet reneged on made in a sports bar.

Wrong. There was actually a contract in this case. Lindell presented Zeidman the contest rules with a signature line which Zeidman executed.

27 posted on 04/27/2023 1:32:35 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: thegagline
Arbitration panel? Is that like a court or something?

I'm thinking that unless they are knowledgeable in the field of data communications, they don't have enough information to render a decision.

28 posted on 04/27/2023 1:33:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: NorthMountain

Evidently, there are some that stupid here on FR.


29 posted on 04/27/2023 1:34:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: NorthMountain
Does ANYBODY actually believe that 81 million living American citizens freely, willingly, and knowingly cast one vote each for Joe Biden?

It isn't that none of the alleged cheating happened - it's that each individual method by itself was apparently not enough to change the result. That forces anyone alleging fraud to prove that all of the methods were employed at once.

Well, it appears they were - but as we have seen the implications of that are too much for RINO legislatures and courts to mentally process. So whenever one particular method is "disproved" as being insufficient to alter the results by itself, everybody now jumps on that disproof and screams: "See? Trump and Lindell (and Lake) are liars!"

30 posted on 04/27/2023 1:36:48 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: tennmountainman
The Fraud was in the Mass Mail Out Ballots And Drop Boxes, Not in Lindell’s Dominion Software. The Less of Lindell, the Better.

We do not know if vote manipulation occurred by machine. It may very well have.

I would be surprised to discover Mike Lindell knows anything about data networks and data communications. He was clearly putting out information told to him by his experts.

I don't think this story is so cut and dried as many of you would have us believe. His experts saw something or they would not have told him so. Maybe they screwed up.

Hard to see how they can gum up that claim though.

31 posted on 04/27/2023 1:37:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I'm thinking that unless they are knowledgeable in the field of data communications, they don't have enough information to render a decision.

The contract Lindell provided and had Summerlin sign mandated binding arbitration.

Lindell's game, Lindell's rules.

32 posted on 04/27/2023 1:38:49 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: thegagline
Lindell’s team provided Zeidman with 11 files. Zeidman was able to prove that each of the files did not contain packet data and therefore cannot be election data from the November 2020 election.

A "Packet" is any d@mn thing you want it to be. I've been doing data communications for 30 years now, and I can organize a "packet" to contain any data I want it to contain and in any organizational format I chose to use.

So just how the h3ll does someone come along and say it "did not contain packet data"? What are they expecting "packet data" to look like? They have some inside knowledge as to how the voting machines transmit data? I thought all that was proprietary information they wouldn't divulge?

33 posted on 04/27/2023 1:42:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: thegagline

Maybe Zeidman can get some pillows.


34 posted on 04/27/2023 1:45:10 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Paragraph 9 of Lindell’s contract provided that the American Arbitration Association-Commercial Tribunal would be the forum for disputes. Having litigated cases before the American Arbitration Tribunals, I can says that the Tribunal members are generally more informed than Judges are regarding complex or esoteric areas of the law.


35 posted on 04/27/2023 1:45:25 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: semimojo

Still not a court. If he wants to take it to court, any contract would be presented there.


36 posted on 04/27/2023 1:47:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: thegagline
Paragraph 9 of Lindell’s contract provided that the American Arbitration Association-Commercial Tribunal would be the forum for disputes. Having litigated cases before the American Arbitration Tribunals, I can says that the Tribunal members are generally more informed than Judges are regarding complex or esoteric areas of the law.

That's great if it is a question of law, how does it work if it's a question of a complex data networking/data transfer system? Do they know anything about that?

37 posted on 04/27/2023 1:49:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: NorthMountain

Does ANYBODY actually believe that 81 million living American citizens freely, willingly, and knowingly cast one vote each for Joe Biden?


Me? nope
Biden voters/democrats? yep.


38 posted on 04/27/2023 1:49:41 PM PDT by cableguymn
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If he wants to take it to court, any contract would be presented there.

And the court would say "You signed a contract specifying binding arbitration. What are you doing here?"

39 posted on 04/27/2023 1:50:33 PM PDT by semimojo
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They would if that actually happened. I'm not yet ready to accept everything is just as it's claimed to be. I see liars all the time trying to convince people to believe stuff that isn't true.

I don't take people's claims at face value until I see proof.

Remember 51 intelligence "experts" claiming Hunter Biden's laptop is "Russian disinformation"?

40 posted on 04/27/2023 1:52:59 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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