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Ukraine: Russian 'elites' scared, looking for contact to Ukraine
The Jerusalem Post ^ | APRIL 24, 2023 | JERUSALEM POST STAFF

Posted on 04/26/2023 4:04:23 PM PDT by familyop

Top elements of the Russian political and business segments are afraid for their future after a possible Russian defeat and are therefore seeking contact to Ukraine and other countries, said Andrii Yusov, a representative of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry. "They are looking for ways out, of course. And not only with Ukraine. The geography in which they are trying to get personal security guarantees for themselves, for their fortunes, for their families is quite wide," according to Yusov.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fpsyops; globalistpropaganda; lolrussiandefeatlol; russiandefeatlol; theusualneoconbilge
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1 posted on 04/26/2023 4:04:23 PM PDT by familyop
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I wish it was the US elites fleeing for safety.


2 posted on 04/26/2023 4:07:45 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: for-q-clinton

LOL


3 posted on 04/26/2023 4:10:40 PM PDT by Neanderthal (Let's go, Brandon!)
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I don’t believe a word any Ukraine news source reports.


4 posted on 04/26/2023 4:10:51 PM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: familyop
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-promised-counter-offensive-destined-for-abject-failure/

UKRAINE’S PROMISED COUNTER OFFENSIVE DESTINED FOR ABJECT FAILURE

With each passing day, the Ukrainian Army is being carved up and decimated in Bakhmut. To use a cinematic metaphor, this is a preview of the coming attraction, with Ukraine facing intense pressure to launch a counter offensive that will push the Russians out of Ukraine. Ain’t going to happen.

Take a look at the following video. Yes, it is but one isolated anecdotal account of the slaughter in Bakhmut, but it rings true and provides a chilling picture of the desperate state of Ukrainian forces in that battle..

Video at: https://youtu.be/lx5wXfbNiL4

Even If Ukraine is able to scrounge up troops and vehicles that surpass anything the Russians have in place on the front-lines in the Donbass (a dubious assumption), it still lacks the artillery, air support, logistics and ammunition to sustain such an attack.

How do I know? Very simple. Just look at how Ukraine currently is performing in Bakhmut, Ugledar, and Avdevka. In every case, Ukrainian forces are retreating, albeit slowly, rather than blunting the Russian offensive. The following image (taken from liveuamap.com, a pro-Ukrainian site at link) shows the harrowing situation the Ukrainian troops confront.

Ukraine, which in theory should have an advantage by fighting from defensive positions, has failed to stop the slow but steady advance of Russian troops all along the line of contact. Instead of attacking and destroying Russian lines of communications that supply the Russian forces, Ukraine is launching artillery and HIMARS missile strikes on civilian targets. Those attacks do nothing to weaken Russia’s tactical and strategic situation.

The seven blue circles visible on the map signify locations where air raid warnings are sounding on April 25. This means the Russians hitting these sites with fixed wing aircraft to deliver 500 kg glide bombs and explosive laden drones. The effect is devastating for the Ukrainians on the receiving end.

These strikes also confirm the assessment contained in one of the leaked pieces of U.S. intelligence that Ukraine’s air defense system (ADS) has been destroyed and Ukraine lacks a layered ADS to fend off Russian attacks. Russian military sources claim they are inflicting an average of 500 fatalities on the Ukrainian troops. In other words, in the last 60 days the Ukrainians have suffered at least 30,000 KIA across the 950 km front. Ukraine does not have a limitless supply of manpower.

No amount of happy talk in Washington or the capitals of other NATO countries alters the dire tactical situation confronting Ukraine. If you look at the changes on the liveuamap during the last six months, it is Russia, not Ukraine, that is relentlessly attacking all along the line of contact. Russia is conducting a brutal war of attrition and Ukraine is willingly sending irreplaceable forces into the maw of destruction. How is Ukraine going to mount a credible counter offensive without adequate air support, an exhausted air defense system, a weakened tank force, shortages of artillery and missiles that cannot be readily replaced and a chaotic logistics system that is failing to keep front-line troops fully supplied with ammunition, fuel and food?

Ukraine’s prospects are made more grim by the realization that Russia, during the last six months, has built layered defense systems along likely avenues of attack, stepped up its use of fixed wing aerial attacks on Ukrainian mobilization positions and kept massive trained reserves off the front lines. Russia is not behaving like an overly confident number 1 seed in the NCAA Basketball tournament. The Russian General Staff realize they are in an existential fight with NATO and are not engaging in premature victory celebrations. Russia is prepared for the long haul. However, Ukraine is not.

The leaders in Kiev are behaving like depraved junkies, totally dependent on the willingness of the West to keep sending money and weapons. But there is a problem. The United States and NATO have exhausted their stocks of weapons and ammunition and do not have the industrial base in place to quickly produce replacements. Ukrainian confidence in victory is no substitute for a fully supplied and trained army. Lack of supplies and raw recruits with minimal basic training is a recipe for catastrophe.

5 posted on 04/26/2023 4:11:18 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: familyop

Consider the source, the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry. It is plausible enough as a propaganda ploy. It might even be true to an extent. It might be that one Russian oligarch reached out to the Ukes and they turned that incident into this ‘rising tide of nervous Russians.’


6 posted on 04/26/2023 4:11:20 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: dforest
I don’t believe a word any Ukraine news source reports.

There are also reports that Putin is afraid to leave his home, and when he does, he has hundreds of his men shielding him from any possible attempt on his life. He also has food testers who eat his served food before he even takes a bite of it.

But, it's likely Ukraine propaganda, so, we need more credible news sources, like those from Russia and China and Iran and N. Korea.
7 posted on 04/26/2023 4:22:38 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Kazan

You reposted this pathetic propaganda?


8 posted on 04/26/2023 4:27:31 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: familyop

They must be following the MSM propaganda then. They don’t have to worry. Russia dropped a missile on an underground bunker full of NATO command officials- the ones running the war. Yeah, Russia isn’t losing, no matter how many times the lying MSM says they are.


9 posted on 04/26/2023 4:56:14 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Sonar also said the Kherson offensive was failing...


10 posted on 04/26/2023 5:10:21 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: familyop

Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 04/26/2023 5:36:38 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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—”You reposted this pathetic propaganda?”

In the 1990s an effort to put a chicken in every pot, many Russian standards were cut.
Universities were cut and job requirements changed to extended internships. Less college is needed.

That plan went through but didn’t appear to work.
That caused a many-years long gap in the professions.

Including skilled propagandists.

Like much of Russia, the field is in severe decline.


12 posted on 04/26/2023 5:38:34 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: familyop

I thought a million Russian oligarchs died already


13 posted on 04/26/2023 5:43:57 PM PDT by struggle
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Looks like very few cannon fodder are left in Bakhmut with Prigozhin in standing out in the open like this. The Ukrainians can only hide in those big buildings for so long. Sleep tight.

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Many of commenters over there, see if you and your small detail can brainwash some of them.


14 posted on 04/26/2023 5:52:08 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: familyop

This report is laughable trash.


15 posted on 04/26/2023 5:55:27 PM PDT by steel_resolve (The Sleeper Must Awaken. )
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To: ransomnote
"They must be following the MSM propaganda then. They don’t have to worry. Russia dropped a missile on an underground bunker full of NATO command officials- the ones running the war. Yeah, Russia isn’t losing, no matter how many times the lying MSM says they are."

It's interesting that Bernie Sanders fans and Ron Paul fans both agree with that Russian story. It's no surprise, though, because Lyndon LaRouche fans and SDS commies agreed with similar Russian stories in the past.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/11rmx1v/russia_finally_admits_to_destroying_natos_deep/

16 posted on 04/26/2023 5:56:22 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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I was hoping Israelis would be smarter than getting drawn in on this Ukrainian Nazi sh*t propaganda.

I was hoping they would also be smarter than to Cow Tow to American Leftist blackmail.


17 posted on 04/26/2023 6:00:22 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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Did Russian Kinzhal Missile Take Out 'NATO Command Center' in Ukraine?

Did Russian Forces Strike a 'NATO Command Center' in Lviv, Ukraine?

[The answer is no. The hysterical story came from enemies and mentally affected folks.]

18 posted on 04/26/2023 6:04:27 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Israeli-Ukrainian Volunteer Captured and Killed by Russian Forces
the algemeiner
i24 News (Israel)
APRIL 22, 2023
https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/04/22/israeli-ukrainian-volunteer-captured-and-killed-by-russian-forces/

19 posted on 04/26/2023 6:09:31 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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I recently saw some news about Israel sending missile sensor systems to Ukraine.


20 posted on 04/26/2023 6:10:49 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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