Mick West is a “UFO de bunker”. Chris Lehto is a retired F 16 pilot. Both have youtube channels. In this video, Chris is a guest on Mick’s show”
https://youtu.be/hsSjY3t-oz8
Fast forward to 11:45 as they were having streaming issues.
The most famous UFO debunker was Philip Klass.
It turns out he was owned by the Deep State.
The details:
One of the “secrets” in this area is how the intelligence community worked for decades to spread lies about UFOs.
The CIA will do anything to prevent a Congressional investigation of this stuff—this is some big time dirty laundry.