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California utility companies propose charging customers based on how much money they make
https://abc7.com/utility-bills-income-california/13126671/ ^ | abc7.com

Posted on 04/15/2023 4:54:45 PM PDT by ameribbean expat

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.

Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.

The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.

Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; communist; communistic; energy; power
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To: George from New England

> What keeps California from writing that into a new law?

I am not a lawyer, but I do not immediately comprehend how a state could take something that is prohibited by federal law and legalize it. There might be something wrong with my understanding (but if so, what?). In connection with all of this is that it is my impression (note: not researched) that IRS code prevents IRS information divulged by ordinary taxpayers from being released to the general public. (If I am wrong, my apologies.)


21 posted on 04/15/2023 6:00:51 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: ameribbean expat

So a middle class person would pay about as much for electricity as a multi-millionare in a 15,000 sq. ft. mansion?
And how reduced is the ‘reduced usage fee? Can’t be much or the plans won’t be economially viable.


22 posted on 04/15/2023 6:19:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Gov hair gell already told the greenies to bad


23 posted on 04/15/2023 6:26:22 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: George from New England

Any your state has your ssn on file when you file your state income tax..


24 posted on 04/15/2023 6:30:01 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46
Gov hair gell already told the greenies to bad

That's all optics, you don't understand the scam.

Some left-wing group files suit against the government, and the Rat politician immediately denounces it. But secretly, Gavin is tickled pink. Because that expedites his Green objectives for CA.

25 posted on 04/15/2023 6:35:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ridesthemiles

How could they pass an audit if they don’t keep more than 3 months of records? (In this state, local governments and public utilities are audited once a year).


26 posted on 04/15/2023 6:49:34 PM PDT by brianl703
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To: SteveH
...I do not immediately comprehend how a state could take something that is prohibited by federal law and legalize it. There might be something wrong with my understanding (but if so, what?). In connection with all of this is that it is my impression (note: not researched) that IRS code prevents IRS information divulged by ordinary taxpayers from being released to the general public...

It is California. The IRS thing is nothing but a red herring. They will just ask the California Franchise Tax Board. They can certainly pass a law requiring the FTB to give your income information to the utility.

27 posted on 04/15/2023 7:47:13 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

> It is California. The IRS thing is nothing but a red herring. They will just ask the California Franchise Tax Board. They can certainly pass a law requiring the FTB to give your income information to the utility.

Great. I wonder if the principle works in general. If I mail order a gun, that is certainly illegal. However, if I mail order a piano that happens to contain a gun, then that should be OK, right? (rhetorical question.)

Seriously, I would hope that federal tax law would somehow, somewhere prohibit this from happening, as a backstop to stupid states acting stupidly out of stupidity...


28 posted on 04/15/2023 7:59:41 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: FoxInSocks

In Indiana that would be illegal. The statutes regarding utility rates clearly states that said rates shall be non-discriminatory.


29 posted on 04/15/2023 9:08:03 PM PDT by technically right
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To: brianl703

Of course California gets audited once a year, by people WHO ARE APPOINTED BY THE DEMOCRAT STATE LEGISLATURE!


30 posted on 04/15/2023 9:09:40 PM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: ameribbean expat

How are “They” going to know what your income is?
Prostitutes
Politicians (oops already said Prostitutes)
Drug dealers
Cartel members
Panhandlers
Human trafficers


31 posted on 04/16/2023 2:23:26 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: Openurmind
"... A Communist policy. ..."

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WOW!
Communism in Kalifornia!

WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED???

/Sarc

32 posted on 04/16/2023 5:29:17 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

OH really, well after last summer reduced power and asking ev owners not to charge their cars. we shall see.


33 posted on 04/16/2023 11:41:05 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Will they also say restaurants can charge more to fat people???

The demise of the local Golden Corral restaurant was/is as such it be.
And,,, as such with all the good bidness, they lacked getting recompense commensurate with the out of average buffet consumption and comped out well as well in the woke mode operandi.
Plus the a sparsity of gratuity in monetary form did not bode to help the help a tall.
Don’t get the idea I’m a dissing portliness, well, all attitudinally corrected though.


34 posted on 04/16/2023 5:46:39 PM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: ameribbean expat
Update...

California’s hated electric bills will soon be based on our income. Will it work? | Opinion

There's actually a lot more revealed in that article...

35 posted on 06/25/2023 1:26:43 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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