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EPA is said to propose rules meant to drive up electric car sales tenfold
The New York Times via Seattle Times ^ | April 8, 2023 | By CORAL DAVENPORT

Posted on 04/09/2023 5:54:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Take our freedom, take our firearms, take our food and take our cars. The political and physical destruction of our country is right on schedule, and when the majority of our population realizes what’s going on, it will be too late.


21 posted on 04/09/2023 6:29:13 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Dr. Sivana

[[Where are the Republicans on this?]]

In china’s pocket


22 posted on 04/09/2023 6:29:26 AM PDT by Bob434 (question )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Meanwhile, whatever else is also involved, the grid can't take it.

Deliberate economic sabotage.

23 posted on 04/09/2023 6:29:54 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
some of the most stringent auto pollution limits in the world, designed to ensure that all-electric cars make up as much as 67% of new passenger vehicles sold in the country by 2032

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The state decides what people can buy instead of individuals.

The "invisible hand" being replaced by the weighty foot of government.

24 posted on 04/09/2023 6:29:59 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The proposed rule would not mandate that electric vehicles make up a certain number or percentage of sales. Instead, it would require that automakers make sure the total number of vehicles they sell each year did not exceed a certain emissions limit. ... to ensure that two thirds of the vehicles they sold were all-electric by 2032”


25 posted on 04/09/2023 6:30:51 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Dr. Sivana

Where are the Republicans on this? Crickets.

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AWOL as usual. A totally useless party.


26 posted on 04/09/2023 6:31:17 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Pollard
Hopefully they won’t enact emissions laws for all cars built in the past 30 years or something.

Those regs are normally at the state/county/city level. Get a Montana plate and a UPS Store box if need be. Here in Phoenix there are tough emissions regs (which forced me to sell my 1994 Buick Roadmaster wagon, a good 30 year car choice), but if I slapped out of state plates on it the cops wouldn't give a second look. This area is filled with snow birds and new arrivals.
27 posted on 04/09/2023 6:31:53 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana

I own a Toyota Avalon. Very sad to learn they have discontinued the model this year. Love that car.


28 posted on 04/09/2023 6:32:24 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Alvin Bragg: Giving Trumped-Up Charges a whole new meaning)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

” designed to ensure that all-electric cars make up as much as 67% of new passenger vehicles sold in the country by 2032”

I JUST LOVE how Biden-lovers (Ukraine War cheerleaders) call Putin a dictator, when Biden is about to SIMPLY DECREE the end to gasoline cars (except for the rich).

Long ago, in another country that I grew up in, which didn’t have a One-Party Government capable of ramming a change in lifestyle of this magnitude, would have AT THE LEAST required an act of the US Congress, and even then, it might well have been struck down by the courts as overreach.

But we hear virtually nothing about what the US has become from those Biden-lovers, just complaints about another country, halfway around the world and talk about starting new wars in Asia.


29 posted on 04/09/2023 6:32:33 AM PDT by BobL
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To: butlerweave
> but no way to charge them <

For one thing, power plants are being shut down as “progressives” demand more and more things go electric. But they’re not concerned. Because here’s how they think:


30 posted on 04/09/2023 6:33:38 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Exactly, no push back whatsoever.


31 posted on 04/09/2023 6:35:09 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds like they’ll have to burn a lot of fossil fuels to generate that electricity.

Oh, and good luck California with the more frequent rolling blackouts.


32 posted on 04/09/2023 6:36:04 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good By Ellen)
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To: antidemoncrat

They know this. Its to reduce vehicle numbers. Agenda 21 implementation.


33 posted on 04/09/2023 6:36:13 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Salman

I’d like to think it isn’t deliberate.

In either case it’s stupidity.

We can’t transition. The imposed goal will result in both energy instability and energy poverty.

Many of the people that live in states that deregulated and import electricity will either heat or eat. Not both.


34 posted on 04/09/2023 6:37:14 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Pollard
Hopefully they won’t enact emissions laws for all cars built in the past 30 years or something.

They will probably require you to pay an annual "carbon fee" if you decide to continue using the car.

35 posted on 04/09/2023 6:38:50 AM PDT by TheCipher ( RINO politicians in DC are the only reptiles in the world with no backbone)
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To: Bob434

> In China’s pocket <

Yep. For example, GOP leader Mitch McConnell and his wife received a gift of at least $5 million from his Chinese father-in-law. And the father-in-law has close ties to the Chinese communists.

Follow the money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Chao#Controversies


36 posted on 04/09/2023 6:39:27 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Pollard
If they do, hopefully they’ll exempt vintage/antique cars.

First they came for the SUVs and I said nothing. Then they came for the Nissan Stanza and I said nothing...

37 posted on 04/09/2023 6:40:19 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This will be a disaster for the country economically if allowed to proceed. The infrastructure to support this does not exist and cannot be put in place to do so in ten years. We lack:

1) Sufficient electrical generation capacity, and new plants are at least a ten year process. And wind and solar cannot do it.

2) Sufficient electrical transmission and distribution capacity, similarly on the upgrade times. CA and TX have had recent well-publicized issues with their systems.

3) Sufficient mining and materials processing to provide for batteries and conductors for the vehicles and the items above.

Other than that, this is a great idea!


38 posted on 04/09/2023 6:40:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If you want to see future America—just walk across the bridge from El Paso to Juarez.

The cars are all junkers and little children are begging on street corners.


39 posted on 04/09/2023 6:42:22 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: butlerweave

Charging stations need to rely on solar panels and windmills.


40 posted on 04/09/2023 6:43:01 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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