Posted on 04/08/2023 9:12:37 AM PDT by Kazan
Rome was, but the Vatican wasn’t.
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Right maiden [sic] never happened or is irrelevant
Placing nato right on Russia’s border is a poor idea at least to me
We promised them no more nato fourteen more nato members in Eastern Europe ago
That said of course Ukraine has a right to fight for what they want and man have they suffered huge casualties comparatively and a large diaspora
Problem is they could never prevail by themselves against such a formidable foe despite best efforts in a real war unlike the SMO which obviously failed when we dumped arms on them and cash to support their economy
I don’t think we care as much about them per se as making unwoke in the way Putin bleed
No one promised Russia there would be no new NATO members. There was only an agreement that there would be no NATO troops in former East Germany. And there aren’t.
Why should only Russia’s concerns be respected? What about Central- and Eastern-European nations that suffered because of Russia for such a long time? Why should these nations suffer again? Do you realize why these nations want (or wanted) to become NATO members? Because they fear Russia. As you can see in Ukraine, their fear was justified.
I believe the West was too lenient on Russia. Russia lost the Cold War. Russia’s economy collapsed. The West should have required de-Communization (and de-despotization) of Russia, but it didn’t. Much of the trouble Russia causes today is a result of this. In my country there are no Communist symbols in public places and no statues of Communist murderers. In Russia, on the other hand, there are plenty of them.
When I want my information on religious issues my first stop is always Bolsheviks and their useful idiot fellow travelers.
You know about religious issues about such as you know about plumbing.
You seem to be intellectually shallow to me.
You can very well consider that Russia lost the Cold War but the Russians view it as that they understood that communism and Soviet empire were bad they gave freedom to Europe by moving out.
If you insisted on them feeling defeated, they would change their mind and return to Europe around early to mid-1990s.
Regarding de-despotization, Russia had a thriving democracy between 1988-1993 until Clinton helped his client Yeltsin usurp power and to steal election in 1996.
Putin is a great improvement in terms of rule of law, freedoms, and he was generally the answer to both Yeltsin’s tyranny and failed economy.
Regarding de-communization don’t make me laugh. Only idiots waye wars on statues.
As far as statues are concerned, where do you draw the line? Is it really acceptable to have statues of mass murderers (the Bolshevik leaders were mass murderers) in public places? Had the Nazis erected statues of Hitler in Germany, should they have remained in place?
But even if we accepted the idea of “not fighting the statues” in its purest form, why do the Russian occupiers erect statues of Lenin in Ukraine? They surely seem to love their Bolshevik murderers. They fly Soviet flags too.
De-Communization isn’t only about statues. In my country we have a law that prohibits former Communist functionaries and agents from holding certain positions in public administration. No such restrictions were enacted in Russia.
You are trying to claim that Russia has been de-Communized, but where is the evidence?
In Russia Communism is only part of the problem. Russia has no tradition of free political institutions (Novgorod didn’t represent the Russian mainstream and it was destroyed anyway). A few months in 1917 could not create a tradition.
Saying that Putin has improved the rule of law and freedoms is a sick joke. Putin’s political opponents are either dead, or in prison, or in exile.
Soviet socialism and Nazism are not the same. Nobody erects Lenin’s statues in Ukraine, except returns to places where they were previously removed for the reasons outlined previously.
Regarding de-communization, Russia was practically de-communized in 1956.
Regarding Russian tradition, they aren’t any business of the guy called Czech occidentalist, regardless of does he understand th or not. His business is to leave peacefully along and not cause troubles because Russia and Czechia aren’t in the same category.
Not cool—The people who bulldoze churches are never the “Good Guys”—this was the case when the Soviets under Stalin did this and the same when Mr. Democracy Zelenskyy does it. This makes it a “Holy War” and such wars are the worst sort of war men wage. They can last 1,000 years too. America better be ready to send her treasure to the war well into the next Century.
Soviet Communism and Nazism weren’t the same (targeted groups were different), but they were equal in their monstrosity. The Soviet regime killed more people than the Nazi regime. The Nazi killings were more “industrialized”, the Soviet killings were more unpredictable.
Saying that Russia was de-Communized in 1956 is revisionist history of the worst kind. One could say it was de-Stalinized, but it surely wasn’t de-Communized.
Two rabid dogs fighting over the same bone.
It is hard to argue with a numbskull. You have just pronounced all the falsehoods dim-wits in Eastern Europe are taught to believe over the last 30 years.
If Soviet “communism” was as bad as the Nazis, explain how a guy with the handle like yours managed to get born and live to hate it?
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