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As fatigue grows and morale wanes in Ukraine, defeat is a real possibility
The hill ^ | 3/29/23 | Mack

Posted on 04/04/2023 1:22:55 PM PDT by wardaddy

The Russian invasion of Ukraine recently passed the one-year mark and I fear the country is on the verge of losing to Russia.

As someone who has visited Ukraine multiple times on humanitarian missions, my last trip convinced me that the country is at a pivotal moment. Morale is slipping. I could see it in the eyes of the children. More importantly, I could hear it in the voices of their leaders, who continue to say all the right things but lack the same conviction as before.

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While the Russian invasion of Ukraine is just a year old, the nation has been in almost continual conflict since 2014, when Russian-backed separatist movements in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine declared independence, and the Russian government annexed the Crimean Peninsula. As the Ukrainians approach a decade of death and chaos, President Putin knows that the Russians will win a war of attrition.

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To: wardaddy
Huh. I guess the heady days of Ukrainian grandmothers knocking Russian drones out of the sky with pickle jars are a distant memory.

We are governed by absolute idiots on both sides of the aisle who conflate wishing it were so with reality.

41 posted on 04/04/2023 3:13:14 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: TexasFreeper2009
You can’t win a war against a determined local population under current rules of war.

The regions that Russia is claiming (re-claiming) are largely in sympathy with Russia and, like Crimea, are enthusiastic about rejoining Russia or becoming free nations in good fellowship with Russia.

42 posted on 04/04/2023 3:18:39 PM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Even if they somehow Russia wins this part of the war, they would eventually loose the gorilla part that would follow.

It might be time to get a grip on reality. Usually when you're losing, it means you're losing.

43 posted on 04/04/2023 3:22:16 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Bulwyf
A good friend of ours adopted a Ukrainian child years back. The kid has been a true blessing to his parents and siblings.

Everyone involved saw scant evidence of the plucky little civic culture so many romanticize here though.

I will just leave it at that.

44 posted on 04/04/2023 3:25:23 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: wardaddy

Perhaps it’s time to Give Peace a Chance (in Ukraine), although that thought only existed when Russia was Communist.


45 posted on 04/04/2023 3:42:40 PM PDT by BobL
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To: rfp1234
The Eastern part of Ukraine is Russified. Russian influence persisted there throughout all the conquest and invasions since the founding of Kiev Rus. The majority of the people there identify culturally and linguistically as Russian.
46 posted on 04/04/2023 3:45:43 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: struggle

“They could have signed a deal in March 2022 and saved hundreds of thousands of lives, but they didn’t care.”

True, but our policy was for WAR, and so Zelensky had no choice but to obey, as we also have our Brownshirts there, the Azovs (Nazis) who likely made sure that Zelensky knew the consequences to him and his family of trying to stand up to us.


47 posted on 04/04/2023 3:45:58 PM PDT by BobL
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To: ransomnote

“Large portions of the ‘determined local population’ had to become refugees and leave to surrounding nations when Russia flattened the power grid, thereby elminating water, heat, light, supplies.”

Not only that, so many men refuse to fight for Ukraine’s grubby little dictator that he made it illegal for them to leave the country - East Berlin all over again, for those who missed it the first time around.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/09/ukraine-men-leave

In Ukraine, recruit center comes to you when you least expect it! Welcome to Ukraine army, volunteers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnw2Abqmu64


48 posted on 04/04/2023 3:46:12 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: PGR88

“Reminds me of when Bush, McCain and Pelosi all looked into Putin’s eyes and read his soul.”

Nuland would be working in a nursing home if anyone had bothered looking into her eyes. Instead they didn’t and we get the Ukraine War.


49 posted on 04/04/2023 3:48:19 PM PDT by BobL
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Captain Ron Didn’t Say Gorillas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyG0G96UB6k


50 posted on 04/04/2023 3:49:42 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Alberta's Child

“What local population? The country is being depopulated at an alarming rate.”

Very true, most of those that didn’t get rounded up to be cannon fodder escaped to Europe and are not about to ever go back to that Neocon Wasteland.


51 posted on 04/04/2023 3:49:59 PM PDT by BobL
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Russians are not known for heeding the rules of war—to them, they are suggestions, not rules. Their tactic of choice is the “Bloody Claw Hammer.” You just keep hitting until they enemy is dead or cries uncle. Not nice, but works. Messy but it ended Cheneya Revolt. It has been rebuilt nice and new—as will the new “Greater Russia” in what was once Eastern Ukraine. I predict, in future years Russia and Ukraine will be allies again, and good friends. (it may take a while).


52 posted on 04/04/2023 3:52:46 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: LouieFisk

” and no sane person wants to destroy the world to save a third world Uke dictatorship run by some prancing nancyboy in a dirty t-shirt.”

And it’s not even that they’ll save Ukraine by going nuclear. They’ll simply set humanity back about 10,000 years, except that there won’t be any easily accessible resources, so that will be The End of History (in the real sense).


53 posted on 04/04/2023 3:55:15 PM PDT by BobL
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To: redgolum

“Russia started the war.”

A TROLL!!!


54 posted on 04/04/2023 3:58:18 PM PDT by BobL
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To: redgolum

We have shown the Russia our word is worthless and we cannot be trusted.

The surrender will require a 100 mile DMZ, removal of all strategic weapons (MLRS, HIMARS etc) and no membership in NATO ever.

The Russians are opposite John Lennon. They want to give war a chance.


55 posted on 04/04/2023 4:00:15 PM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: qaz123

“Believe what you want to believe. Obviously, you could care less about the Ukrainian men that have been massacred, while sit at your keyboard cheering on a war you’re not fighting in.”

At this point, when people claim, or imply, that Putin woke up on the wrong side of the bed and thus decided to start a war to take more land - my take is that it’s simply TROLLING, as anyone on this site knows that there is A LOT MORE that led to the Ukraine War, and 85% of the world, the countries that have NOT imposed sanctions on Russia, also know the same.


56 posted on 04/04/2023 4:02:06 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Russians are not known for heeding the rules of war—to them, they are suggestions, not rules.”

Funny how the US joined Russia in NOT signing up to the ICC, which arrests war criminals.

Why not, might it be that the US is not as pure as the Wind-Driven Snow, perhaps?

And if one looks at Bill Clinton’s BOMBING OF CIVILIANS in Belgrade, in 1999, one can understand why the Neocons DO NOT want to be held to international standards.

But I get it, there are people here who will claim that BILL CLINTON’S bombing of Civilians in Belgrade was fine, since it was the United States killing the civilians.

Right?


57 posted on 04/04/2023 4:08:12 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

“We have shown the Russia our word is worthless and we cannot be trusted.”

Other than for flat-out paid Operatives, the above is OBVIOUS. Our word is only SOMETIMES truthful. Russia learned this the hard way, but they did learn it - so the war ends when Russia considers themselves safe from the Neocons in Ukraine.


58 posted on 04/04/2023 4:10:57 PM PDT by BobL
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Azov loves you .....to death.


59 posted on 04/04/2023 4:55:54 PM PDT by norsky ( <P> <a href= > <hi/a> <P><img src=" "width=500"></img>)
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To: BobL

give globalism a chance, ok.


60 posted on 04/04/2023 4:57:35 PM PDT by norsky ( <P> <a href= > <hi/a> <P><img src=" "width=500"></img>)
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