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Why America Will Lose this War As every one Since WWII
Armstrong Economics ^ | 30 Mar 23 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 03/30/2023 11:58:43 AM PDT by delta7

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To: ransomnote

I guess I’ll need more that this guy’s Socrates or unexplained predictions.

I’ll stick with the idea we need to get the USA fixed NOW - Trump is definitely helping - by DISMANTLING the $3 trillion unconstitutional portion of the feds AKA the “Deep State” AKA the “Swamp.”


21 posted on 03/30/2023 1:43:49 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: ransomnote

I guess I’ll need more that this guy’s Socrates or unexplained predictions.

I’ll stick with the idea we need to get the USA fixed NOW - Trump is definitely helping - by DISMANTLING the $3 trillion unconstitutional portion of the feds AKA the “Deep State” AKA the “Swamp.”


22 posted on 03/30/2023 1:44:51 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Vermont Lt; delta7

So Martin is channeling Greek philosophers now? This guy is a whack-a-doodle.


I think we found his FR handle, too. LOL.


23 posted on 03/30/2023 1:45:19 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: delta7

See most retarded article. Oh Armstrong. Lol


24 posted on 03/30/2023 1:46:48 PM PDT by Tilapiafish2
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To: jacknhoo

So now, Clintons, Kerrys, Bidens, Soros, Schwab, Nuland, Vindman, Milley, Pyatt and other Democrats are neocons.

Who’d-a-thunk-it!


Correct. Anyone who is not a Chomsykite fruitcake is a “neocon”.


25 posted on 03/30/2023 1:46:52 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: delta7

The sad fact is that all we have to do is cut all economic ties with China. Period. Full stop.

It would wreck their economy and it would harm ours, but in reality it would be cheaper and not costs the lives of our young people like an all-out war would.

We could even force Europe to cut ties OR we could offset the costs to us by leaving NATO if they refused. Harsh? Probably, but what are tens or hundreds of thousands of our young people worth to us?

We don’t have to “fight” China. We have a certain remedy that will wreck them and there is only one flawed individual with a chance of being in charge that understands this. Trump.


26 posted on 03/30/2023 1:54:56 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: delta7

Desert Storm was an unparalleled Victory. I was there.


27 posted on 03/30/2023 2:17:59 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Feckless

What did we win? Keeping the Emir in power?


28 posted on 03/30/2023 2:18:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: volunbeer

The sad fact is that all we have to do is cut all economic ties with China. Period. Full stop.
Well, that is good and well except if you have to take a medication to stay alive. There are made in China and we don’t have any plan to make it different. We have been horrendously stupid to give her manufacturing base to China. Now they have the power. And our politicians are being paid to give it to them.


29 posted on 03/30/2023 2:30:42 PM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: delta7

“Why America Will Lose this War As every one Since WWII”

The moment that our ‘sanctions’ failed, we lost the war. The rest is just mopping up by Russia.

But in the end it’s a good thing, as the Neocons were NEVER going to get Ukraine, particularly Crimea, without a nuclear response to deal with.


30 posted on 03/30/2023 2:31:20 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Always remember ‘Every Saint had a past and every Sinner has a future’ Some people learn from their mistakes, while others keep repeating them.


31 posted on 03/30/2023 2:33:48 PM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: jacknhoo

“Neocon” is just a way of saying “poopyhead” while deluding oneself that one is some kind of foreign policy genius.


32 posted on 03/30/2023 2:34:13 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: tinamina

“”The sad fact is that all we have to do is cut all economic ties with China. Period. Full stop.””

“Well, that is good and well except if you have to take a medication to stay alive. There are made in China and we don’t have any plan to make it different. We have been horrendously stupid to give her manufacturing base to China. Now they have the power. And our politicians are being paid to give it to them.”

I agree with you. I also don’t waste my time on dingbats that think we can go cold turkey from China, as they OBVIOUSLY have never seen what goes on in the Port of Long Beach, for example.

I’m temped to say they’re trolling, but it’s more like they see the American Flag as a symbol that NOTHING can harm us, regardless of how stupid our leaders may be. If we had that attitude in the 1940s, we’d be speaking German.


33 posted on 03/30/2023 2:41:13 PM PDT by BobL
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To: tinamina

It is not nearly as hard to make pharmaceuticals as people make it out to be. High end computer chips (those made in Taiwan) are much more difficult than pharmacological products.

If it were up to me we would put on a full-court press to divest ourselves of China. Yes, there will be some issues, but people are not thinking logically given that many believe we will be in a hot war with China.

Do you think we will be importing hundreds of container ships into West coast ports if we are in a shooting war with them? The obvious answer is no.

We must use the leverage we have and find ways around the inevitable problems that will come about either way that avoids a war where our children and grandchildren die.

I personally believe that the oligarchs in China would far rather avoid losing access to US markets than they would to take Taiwan. China has leverage on us and we have leverage on them since our economies are very intertwined, but I would argue that we have more.


34 posted on 03/30/2023 2:45:09 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: delta7

Wait...we won in Grenada (1983) and Panama (1989).


35 posted on 03/30/2023 2:45:32 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: BobL

Or perhaps we are people who have seen war, who have children, and who understand that conflict with China will cost us trillions of dollars either way.....

India has enough capacity on pharmaceuticals along with Europe, Mexico, and the US/Canada that we could quickly replace pharmaceuticals. The people who tell you different are the ones most interested in the profit margins vs the ability.

Again.... my point is that those ships WILL NOT be docking in Long Beach if we get in a hot war with them anyways so let’s openly talk about foregoing the bloodshed and use something besides gunpowder to prevent it.


36 posted on 03/30/2023 2:49:06 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: volunbeer

“India has enough capacity on pharmaceuticals along with Europe, Mexico, and the US/Canada that we could quickly replace pharmaceuticals.”

90% of the base chemicals India uses to manufacture drugs come from China.

And by the way, it’s you blabbing about going to war against China.

The rest of us wouldn’t mind disengaging from them, but not doing it in a TOTALLY IDIOTIC way, as we did when we decided to start a war against Russia, or left Afghanistan.


37 posted on 03/30/2023 2:54:13 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

It’s actually China blabbing about going to war. We are not intent on invading Taiwan or at least Biden hasn’t brought that up yet to my knowledge.

China is talking a big game. My point is that we need to use all the power we have and make plans for it immediately in case we are forced to decouple from them due to their behavior (not ours).

We have Admirals and others in our government warning about war with China.

I don’t want to go to war, but if they are going to push it and we end up there anyways your medication will be disrupted anyways.

The blood of my children is most important and I think it is a matter of national security that we start planning now just in case. I am the last person who wants to go to war with China or anyone else for that matter.

It is amazing that we even got to this point in our nations history where we all feel reliant on a belligerent communist nation, but here we are. I simply refuse to believe that there are not other alternatives available in a pinch - there is just no economic incentives to find them (yet).


38 posted on 03/30/2023 3:07:27 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: BobL

I have advocated planning for a possible decoupling for many years and have been quite vocal about it.

I also believe our position on Taiwan should be economic scorched earth and if we threaten to pull out of NATO I think we can get the Europeans to follow. Harsh? Yes, but as I stated above and will say again the divorce from the CCP will not be cheap either way but war will be far bloodier and more expensive.

I truly believe we have a bunch of idiots in DC and in boardrooms who will prefer war and it concerns me.

There are some things like pharmaceuticals, electrical transformers, critical parts, and others that will be a mad scramble but its doable and the people who tell you its not are most worried about their bottom line. The rest of the crap on the shelves at Walmart? Pretty sure we will survive that.


39 posted on 03/30/2023 3:11:44 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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“I have advocated planning for a possible decoupling for many years and have been quite vocal about it.”

I’ve wanted to decouple from China for at least 20 years.

But we didn’t...and now we’re incredibly addicted to the point where our defense contractors cannot even find ball bearings for their hardware.

So my point is that we get our shit together at home FIRST, before we think about cutting off our supply lines...and we’re not there yet, not even close.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/us/politics/military-weapons-ukraine-war.html


40 posted on 03/30/2023 3:14:48 PM PDT by BobL
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