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Gov. Ron DeSantis to Newsmax: Forget Trump Ticket, I'm 'an Executive Guy'
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, 23 March 2023 08:55 PM EDT | Eric Mack |

Posted on 03/23/2023 7:24:37 PM PDT by conservative98

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To: BuddhaBrown
Sorry you are pathetic flaming someone for being human and ignoring all of the actions he took that did benefit the Country and Americans. It's grotesquely easy to assign blame in the retrospectoscope without ever having been under fire or accomplishing anything.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

61 posted on 03/23/2023 10:23:58 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: mbrfl
"...quarantines... they nonetheless slowed the spread of the disease..."

Swamp bunk.

During DS Don's reign we were told lies about mask being effective, nonsense about distancing, wildly exaggerating the lethality of the bug, lying about natural immunity, etc. And lying about cheap, effective treatments already available - because by law they could not get emergency use authorization for their poison if they told the truth.

Yes, it was a bug. Not a flu. A new, semi-novel cold. It was created with your tax money during Trump's term. For God's sake, even that prick Obama protected America and the world from Dr Death's GOF research better than did SuperDon.

Trump was either in on it or was embarrassingly out-witted by a very well-known devil. I don't believe he was tricked. The populist did a stupidly/wrongly popular (because of admin lies) thing. For votes.

62 posted on 03/23/2023 10:25:29 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: JayGalt
"...grotesquely easy to assign blame... "

Yes, it is. When the failure is grotesque and deadly.

I've acknowledged several Trump wins. And I voted for him multiple times. And am possibly doomed to vote for him again in the general.

Good things don't erase the gigantic deadly bad thing. Only honesty and repentance can do that. And SuperDon seems powerless against his own fatal flaw: Pride... it's not just bad regarding gay stuff. It's a serious flaw regardless.

63 posted on 03/23/2023 10:44:38 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: mbrfl
We know a grand Jury has been empaneled and is considering the matter.

Nothing new there. But Trump went out on a limb, and claimed he was going to be arrested on a specific day, Tuesday of this week. Never happened. I posted on here I didn't think it would, either, as Trump's own lawyers said there was no indication it was going to happen on Tuesday, when asked. So DeSantis probably knew that too, was wise not to fall victim to Trump's act.

It will depend on how fair the jury pool is, how effective Bragg’s supression of exculpatory evidence has been, and whether all the increased public focus and criticism of the last few days will cause Bragg to have cold feet.

I have no idea. But I'm pretty certain Trump's behavior is probably close to the exact opposite of what a lawyer would tell you to do if you are facing an indictment. That kind of taunting is exactly what can cause an overreach of the law.

No comment on DeSantis’s criticism of Trump’s 2020 fraud allegations?

I thought they were pretty much right in line with what most people think about the 2020 election. While there was obviously some irregularities in the voting, by that point in the process you don't try to subvert the Constitution, and the electoral college process, by not counting the votes the state legislatures legally sent there. Could Pence have refused to count the legal votes, as the Constitution requires? Sure, he could have called in sick too. But since the electoral college is based on counting the actual electors the state legislatures had sent, and they weren't any officially approved alternate electors, which can but did not happen, the proper choice was to follow the Constitution, which Pence did, by counting the official electors the states had sent. Anything else would have been outrageous and Trump and Pence would very likely be in jail at this point.

Most every legal analyst I've seen has explained that one must actually officially be declared the loser of an election, in order to legally contest it. It requires that official loss for you to have actual damages, in order to have standing in a lawsuit. Kari Lake waited until her election was officially lost, recently, before contesting it, which is the proper process. But Trump packed his bags and disappeared for a year after J6, and let the case get cold, so that's on him.

Regarding some internet rumor supposedly involving DeSantis, forget it. That's nothing compared to the unproven internet claims against Trump anyway.

64 posted on 03/23/2023 10:46:27 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Florida is where WOKE goes to DIE!)
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To: BuddhaBrown

Have you meditated on the sin of sanctimony?


65 posted on 03/23/2023 11:07:22 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: JayGalt

“Have you meditated on the sin of sanctimony?”

Does that apply to guys who say if they personally do not win, then America is over?


66 posted on 03/23/2023 11:13:39 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BuddhaBrown

Well what can I say. Your attacks are based on claims for which you have no proof and which, additionally, make no logical sense. Take your claim that Trump was in on releasing the virus. Besides the fruits of your own imagination, you have no evidence on which to base the claim. And the lack of evidence is the least of its flaws. It doesn’t even make logical sense. The pandemic and the subsequent mass-scale, mail-in voting that resulted from it, was what enabled the theft of the election away from Trump.

Using your fantasies as proof of claims for which there is no evidence, and which defy logic, demonstrates your irrational mind.


67 posted on 03/23/2023 11:13:52 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: JayGalt

Spring of 21. The same time he was telling people to call it the “Trumpcine” instead of vaccine.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-covid-19-vaccine-should-called-trumpcine-1582676


68 posted on 03/23/2023 11:19:43 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Florida is where WOKE goes to DIE!)
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To: BuddhaBrown

 

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Gov. Ron DeSantis to Newsmax: Forget Trump Ticket, I'm 'an Executive Guy', BuddhaBrown wrote:

“Dangerous? How so? “

He created an unneeded, dreadfully ineffective and deadly poison. Which has killed thousands and harmed millions of innocent Americans.

For votes.

America First turned out to be his hit list.

His admin created so much false fear that the dumb idea of a fake vax was popular at the time. He is a populist politician. So America and the world suffer for his unquenchable lust for power.

I agree he did some good things too. Just like the first 2 Bushes.

That does not excuse the horrific failure. As Donald J Bush himself pointed out regarding Bush II.

The DEEP STATE developed the poison and Trump isn't a medical researcher/doctor. The MSM/DEEPSTATE Weaponized Medical Establishment/government had locked down the country - people didn't resist or say 'no', they went home. The Deep State was going to make that permanent - hold us at home, crash the economy, put us on Gov funding. It was happening and Trump was saying 'no mandates' , talking about alternative treatments, saying we have to end lockdowns. The only way to open the cages sprung shut on us was to incentivize production of the vaccines because if they were available, the Deep State didn't have an excuse to further lock us down. He set us free, never mandated and never would.

Pfizer/Moderna contracts leaked from other countries specified terms that, if violated would cede 'sovereign' assets like US military bases to the Pharams (Pfizer is CCP). That includes messaging - Pfizer controls messaging as does Moderna per contract. Plus Pelosi and others were trying to get an excuse to activate UN troops already hear by claiming Trump was delusional, not acknowledging the Pandemic, they lied and said he told the public to drink bleach and Pelosi said "President Trump is murdering Americans". It was quite an information war with Trump having to pit himself against the entire captured medical establishment that had indoctrinated and frightened the public.

He saved us - no one else did. He's still saving us.


69 posted on 03/23/2023 11:20:26 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Golden Eagle

“I thought [DeSantis’s comments about election irregularities] were pretty much right in line with what most people think about the 2020 election.”

Well, that’s interesting, because you’re the one who told me recently, that you believed the election WAS stolen from Trump. In fact, one of your biggest criticisms of Trump was that he hasn’t done enough to fix the problem. You touted DeSantis as being stronger on this issue. Well now, your chosen candidate is downplaying the very existence of outcome altering election fraud and is asserting that Trump should have moved on like Washington did (which, BTW is a false analogy, being the Washington never had the election stolen from him). So the bottom line is, you keep moving the goal posts, meaning that you don’t even believe the arguments that you offer to justify your dislike of Trump and embrace of DeSantis, because when your arguments are disproven, you just switch to another argument, with no explanation.

BTW. I’m still waiting for you to respond to David Rubin’s statement about DeSantis congratulating on him and his “husband” on their adopted children. You dismiss it as a rumor. It’s not a rumor. Rumors are unsourced. This is an assertion from someone who was a party to the alleged event. So is your response that Dave Rubin is lying? If it is, on what basis do you make that claim? Has DeSantis refuted it? Or is it wrong simply because “He must be lying since I know DeSantis would never do such a thing”? You’re on weak ground here, Golden Eagle. Lets see what misdirection or obfuscation you use to weasel out of this one.


70 posted on 03/23/2023 11:33:07 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Golden Eagle

We knew a lot less then. Back seat driving is intoxicating but fraught with the peril of disingenuity.
Who cares if Trump sang praises. He is not a md, nor a scientist. He did not mandate. He committed himself to saving the US people from a threat he believed was real and believed he had by handling logistics of distribution, procurement & manufacturing of supplies and when the enemies refused to allow drug therapy with known agents he pushed for something.

He believed what he was told by experts and communicated what he was told. Only a fool would have been persuaded by Trump to take the “jab” especially since he said it was up to the individual to decide if it was right for them.

You remind me of the DA pushing Stormy Daniels and hiding the evidence that there is no case. You have nothing to work from attacking Trump so you spin this claptrap.


71 posted on 03/23/2023 11:40:24 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: BuddhaBrown

The truth is hard to argue with. We have had a parade of losers. Only Trump made a difference. That says it all.


72 posted on 03/23/2023 11:42:08 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: Golden Eagle

What a disingenuous stance. Does Trump have a crystal ball? He went on the statements of the DA made to his lawyers. DeSantis has made a fool of himself and soured his future as a Presidential candidate.


73 posted on 03/23/2023 11:45:05 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: mbrfl

“Trump was in on releasing the virus.”

I’m saying even American enemy Obama did a better job than Trump in protecting America from Fauci. And I have seen nothing to convince me he will do better next time. I fully expect Don to kick it up a notch next time - a Warp 10 attack on Freedom, we’ll have to dig up Scotty to tell Capt Jerk this ship can’t take it.

I certainly believe, being the populist politician that he is, Trump will make more bad decisions like his horrible SwampJab. Populists are socialists with a constant smile and an occasional good idea. Trump fits that. Great on some issues. But loves BigGovt, BigPharma, the awful entitlements, tried to stick us with TrumpRyanCare, etc.

Ron has a foundation on the principle of Freedom. Likely he will fail the ideal at times too. But at least his career is based on being a Freedom guy, HFC, etc. Not on some nebulous MAGA nonsense. Or on the most creepy and twisted sense of loyalty imaginable.

Ron is the guy creating his own red wave.

Trump is the guy who tried to stop it on the eve of the midterms with the most disgusting back stab ever. Fortunately, Trump failed again and Ron lives on.


74 posted on 03/23/2023 11:58:07 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BuddhaBrown

Does that apply to guys who say if they personally do not win, then America is over?


Nice try, but Trump never said or even implied that. His point has always been that if the people no longer get to choose their President, because election fraud is allowed to prevail, then America is over.


75 posted on 03/24/2023 12:08:30 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: conservative98

Trump offers tickets to his rallies.

But you don’t need one to attend.

Ron, President Trump is having a rally tomorrow in Waco, TX

See you there?


76 posted on 03/24/2023 12:14:38 AM PDT by Syncro (Truth and Facts)
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To: ConservativeMind

“I think I’m probably more of an executive guy,” DeSantis said.

He “thinks” he’s “probably” more of etc...

Isn’t governor an Executive position?

So, he was elected to be Governor of Florida.

When is his term up?

If he wants to be president some day, another full term as governor should build his confidence so he KNOWS, not just PROBABLY, that he is an executive “guy.”

I think he would have a good chance of winning in 2028-if Trump’s VP doesn’t run.

If he runs in ‘24, he will have to resign from his present job.

He wouldn’t do that, he made a commitment to the voters that elected him.

I don’t think they would be happy to just have him as governor for a few months.


77 posted on 03/24/2023 12:30:51 AM PDT by Syncro (Truth and Facts)
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To: ransomnote

“He saved us”

Please, save us no more SuperDon. It’s killing us.

Yes, Trump is not a doctor. Fauci is not a president. Well... wasn’t before Trump.

Trump owns the fake vax, ineffective, deadly SwampJab. It is Donald J Bush’s WMD and he used it on us for votes.

You seem so say The Don created the SwampJab to free Americans from the tyranny imposed under his watch. An incredibly horrible reason for dangerous experimentation on Americans.

Suggesting Trump is NOT responsible for the tyranny of mandates makes no sense. The dangerous fake vax would not exist without him. Under normal sane, safe procedures it would have been released after his 2nd term and after we realized what a horrendous failure it is. Mandates were always the goal. Anybody who did not understand that should not be driving our ship.

Trump gave the enemy worse weapons than Biden left in Afghanistan.


78 posted on 03/24/2023 12:30:52 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; V K Lee; qaz123; GOPJ
Is [Ron DeSantis] REALLY insinuating Donald Trump doesn't know how to get things done? Really?

* * *

Good comment, Right_in_Virginia.

My biggest issue with Governor DeSantis is that he's given precious little praise of Trump for all that he accomplished as President.

And I wish DeSantis had the Courage to Be Free of special interest groups like Golden Sacks and RINOs like Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush.

I tried to scan Amazon's 938 book review comments, but found no opportunity there to read conservative criticisms of the book. 87% of the views are 5-star reviews. Then sprinkled in the reviews are a handful of brief, 1-star negative comments from Leftists, as you'd expect. There are NO 2-star comments. The one 3-star was full of high praise. And 4-star comments were mostly short and also gushing with praise. And not all those 4-star reviews were posted to read.

I sought criticisms by readers who gave the book a 4 star review, figuring some of those folks would be conservatives who gave an honest appraisal by mixing in both positive and negative comments. But I could not.

Amazon apparently doesn't permit conservative critics of the book an opportunity to be heard. Thank God we have Free Republic.

79 posted on 03/24/2023 12:42:27 AM PDT by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: JayGalt

” ...Trump made a difference...”

What differences still exist today?

I’m sure there are some things. Many were executive order / temp changes that can be done/undone by any prez. They are not great or lasting accomplishments really, even when they are great decisions.

But he’s certainly no Washington. Or even Lincoln.

Trump is a destroyer. Which was great at times. I will pitch in to change TR’s image into Trumps on Mt Rushmore -cut of the stash, use for bangs - simply for what he did to the Clintons. National hero level stuff there.

But it is not likely you get a bigger bang from the hand grenade the second time you throw it. He will be even less effective than his first time at bat doing nothing fight against the swamp. Just feeding it.


80 posted on 03/24/2023 12:47:19 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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