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Returning to Neocon Roots – DeSantis Backtracks on His Tucker Carlson Ukraine Position as Territorial Dispute, Now Says “I think it’s been mischaracterized,” and “Putin is a war criminal”
The Last Refuge ^ | March 22, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 03/23/2023 8:52:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: dforest
And yes, I look at it realistically. I am not for Biden and his war pigs in Ukraine, so I consider this a “policy”.

I agree, both with this being policy and your position on Biden. This is policy. Where does Trump stand? Where does DeSantis stand? That's debating your candidate's policy.

What I see too much of around here lately is the actual infighting, name calling, etc. between the Trump supporters (I count myself as one) and DeSantis supporters. It's ignorant. Instead of standing on policy positions, I see too much mudslinging from both sides. The kind of nonsense I've seen too much of here lately doesn't win elections.

The truth is, Trump & DeSantis are both viable candidates. Obviously, we want Trump to win because we already know what he will do as President and he is not a politician, not even a little. DeSantis, on the other hand, is a very polished politician. It's highly likely, based on what we've seen in Florida, that he would govern as a politician would. Unfortunately for "We, the People", that means it will be mostly business as usual. Not necessarily a bad thing with an (R) President, but it does absolutely nothing to stop the DC Mafia.

I really don't feel the need to simply sling mud at DeSantis supporters. I'd rather debate policy, and for the moment, I happen to believe Trump's policies and abilities are what we need at the moment. I'd LOVE to see and support DeSantis in '28.

61 posted on 03/23/2023 11:49:22 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: TiGuy22
Let's see under Trump, 1) we hit 50-year low in unemployment without 40-year high in inflation 2) Become a net exporter of oil for the first time since 1973 and were energy independent 3) Saw a record low number number for border crossings 4) He got 700 miles of wall built despite the Republican establishment and Democrats best efforts to prevent any funding for it 5) Avoid using our military as a means of enriching our political class.

Trump is going to slice your establishment whore up in the primaries. DeSantis is the next Ted Cruz.

62 posted on 03/23/2023 11:57:27 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: SoConPubbie

Remembering how Jeb Bush also did a good job as Florida Governor. This also wasn’t the whole story. Please clap.


63 posted on 03/23/2023 11:57:28 AM PDT by TheElectionWasStolen
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To: dware

When there is little difference in policy, there is little to debate other than splitting hairs

I applaud Trump’s efforts while President, but fear four years of coup de tat again if he is elected. He refuses to go on offense against them and they will not deal.


64 posted on 03/23/2023 11:57:57 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: TheElectionWasStolen

He followed the law and Terry was taken off life support


65 posted on 03/23/2023 12:00:29 PM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: bert
but fear four years of coup de tat again if he is elected.

Oh I don't fear it. I expect it.

He refuses to go on offense against them

This is my biggest issue with Trump. If elected, and that is a BIG if (as long as the left has their voter fraud machine oiled, we're screwed no matter what), he had better go absolutely scorched earth on every single one of the rotten, traitorous anti-American leftist liberal democrats, period. There is no other choice at this point in history. It's either that, or we lose it all. When it comes to Trump or DeSantis, I trust Trump a bit more to actually do that. I really don't see DeSantis going scorched earth on them. Especially when the "them" comes to the anti-American leftist liberal republicans in the Senate.

66 posted on 03/23/2023 12:13:19 PM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: SoConPubbie

This man has no chance.


67 posted on 03/23/2023 12:15:45 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: dware

Both sides sling mud. But this regarding Ukraine is policy and people do not change their policy in less than a week unless they were lying or using weasel words to deceive at least once. I don’t care for personal attacks that aren’t true either.


68 posted on 03/23/2023 12:34:05 PM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: Kazan

Let’s see under Trump, 1) we hit 50-year low in unemployment without 40-year high in inflation 2) Become a net exporter of oil for the first time since 1973 and were energy independent 3) Saw a record low number number for border crossings 4) He got 700 miles of wall built despite the Republican establishment and Democrats best efforts to prevent any funding for it 5) Avoid using our military as a means of enriching our political class.
Trump is going to slice your establishment whore up in the primaries. DeSantis is the next Ted Cruz.
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You’re right on all of the above, which is why I want Trump to be president again, and don’t want anyone running a primary against him.

But you’re wrong about DeSantis being an establishment whore. If he were he wouldn’t have attacked the issues he has in FL, that NO other governor is doing. Dirtying him up does nobody any good. Both he and Trump have faults, better not to be a fanboy for either.


69 posted on 03/23/2023 12:49:29 PM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: DPMD
1. He started a war.

He did? Or did he retaliate against repeated Ukrainian incursions into Dombass and repeated encroachment by NATO?

2. He’s a criminal.

Who gives a feces? I don't care if Putin was throwing his own people into a woodchipper. Leave him and his country alone.

70 posted on 03/23/2023 2:28:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: tlozo
Invasion of neighboring Ukraine for territorial gain.

That's completely, categorically false.

Sending an invading army to capture a European capitol?

Ukraine is not a NATO member and doesn't belong to the EU.

71 posted on 03/23/2023 2:30:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SoConPubbie
OMG JEFFROE BODINE. BACK TO "DOUBLE-NAUGT 7" SPY STATUS. TEDRONLIMS ASSEMBLE! LOFL!!!!
72 posted on 03/23/2023 2:55:18 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: AndyJackson
"I will clap. That was a marvelous performandce taking hiself out of serious contention for the Presidency like that, permanently. Looks like he realized he didn’t have the stuff to make it in the big leagues."

And so quickly! The week he got serious about making an announcement, the announcement he had to make was, "I'm a stone-cold moron already working above my pay grade, and I'll never be President."

73 posted on 03/23/2023 3:01:15 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Moorings
Did he get a call from Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan?

Whatever you guys are drinking, I'll have a double.

74 posted on 03/23/2023 3:10:40 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BlackbirdSST

NATO is a bureaucrcy that lost its mission with the end of the Cold War, and in Parkinson’s Law fashion, continued to grow and expand. It needed a mission and created one. Now the useless feckless organization can fight the China-Russia coalition that the globalists manufactured for them.


75 posted on 03/23/2023 3:18:07 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kazan

5) Avoid using our military as a means of enriching our political class.

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I doubt it. Military spending increased. Probably more than necessary and with no other goal than getting the war industry off his back.

Trump didn’t start a war to enrich the war industry.


76 posted on 03/23/2023 3:18:43 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I should’ve known better than to drag a little humor past a leftoid wannabe.

Truthfully, I kind of agree with your take, but I don’t know which was more entertaining, my post or your reaction

Cheers.


77 posted on 03/24/2023 11:44:36 AM PDT by DPMD (ua)
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To: lodi90

They are both very bad actors. Conservatives used to be better than black and white false choices.

Grow up. I made no moral equivalency. I recognize that evil comes in many forms. I reject your your premise ans maintain both are bad and we should support niether. Not worth our money and definitely not worth our blood.


78 posted on 03/27/2023 2:20:15 PM PDT by Skwor
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To: SoConPubbie

Bastard electeds who have prioritized Ukes over Americans, giving us CARTELS need to be tossed. F’em all.


79 posted on 04/10/2023 8:12:39 AM PDT by Badboo (A fascist is the one who wants to take your guns. That's how it always starts.)
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