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Biden speeds up sending M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine by using refurbished models
NY Post ^ | 03-21-2023 | Mark Moore

Posted on 03/21/2023 11:36:39 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: M Kehoe

“Pinging Trackheads..
To train a crew in that MOS (after BCT) is about 18 weeks.”

For youngsters straight out of BCT, my generation trained into M 60’s in 8 weeks.
Fifteen years later, we cross trained from M 60A1’s into M 1’s in two weeks.
It’s going to depend on how quickly they adapt, but 18 weeks? No.


41 posted on 03/21/2023 1:02:37 PM PDT by JackFromTexas (- Not For Hire -)
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To: SaveFerris

WWW III would solve a lot of problems in the minds of the deranged ruling elite.


42 posted on 03/21/2023 1:05:56 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: JackFromTexas; M Kehoe

β€˜Very High Quality Ukrainian Tankmen Begin Training On US M1A2 Abrams, German Leopard-2 Tanks
February 18, 2023
https://eurasiantimes.com/very-high-quality-ukrainian-tankmen-begin-training-on-us/


43 posted on 03/21/2023 1:07:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: JonPreston

Love to own one of those tanks.


44 posted on 03/21/2023 1:07:13 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: uranium penguin

> How many hundreds of hours does it take to train a tank crew for an Abrams?

8 weeks should be plenty if they’ve already had prior experience on other tanks.


45 posted on 03/21/2023 1:07:47 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: M Kehoe

> To train a crew in that MOS (after BCT) is about 18 weeks.

That’s peacetime training.


46 posted on 03/21/2023 1:08:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: M Kehoe

I attended Armor OBC in 1991. Just to get a Lieutenant ready to take any active platoon was a five month course. Then once you got to your unit, your real training would begin with your platoon sergeant. Thank God I had a couple of great ones.


47 posted on 03/21/2023 1:14:02 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: C210N

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48 posted on 03/21/2023 1:14:41 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: ChicagoConservative27

8-10 months:
6 months to train up a contractor to remove the depleted uranium armor safely.

4 months to actually remove the armor and refurbish the tanks.

Shipping and handling another 2 months until actually in Ukraine.

So overall all, a 10-12 month timeline.


49 posted on 03/21/2023 1:19:23 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: uranium penguin

I would expect that there have NOT been Ukrainian personel, training in simulators in the US for the past year?


except there have been.


50 posted on 03/21/2023 1:20:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Carriage Hill

Poland is more likely to send F-16s then the US.


51 posted on 03/21/2023 1:21:56 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: spokeshave

Destroyed Feb 2022


52 posted on 03/21/2023 1:22:51 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The older M1s in storage lack the highly prized, secret, and more sophisticated armor, sensors, and fire control of the latest models. With renovations, the old models will be better than anything else on the battlefield in Ukraine. Such a need is why many older Abrams tanks were retained instead of all being junked at the end of the Cold War.


53 posted on 03/21/2023 1:27:34 PM PDT by Rockingham
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"Refurbished." Does that indicate that biden will give the Russians samples of the tippy top secret Chobham armor so they can reverse engineer it?

The original indicators were that the intent was to ship the few M1 Abrams that hadn't been retrofitted... One of the lessons from Gulf War 2 was that only an M1 could kill an M1. Biden seems to want to correct that.

54 posted on 03/21/2023 1:28:18 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Meanwhile, in polluted Ohio and hurricane ravaged Florida, crickets...


55 posted on 03/21/2023 1:30:29 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: SaveFerris
"I thought Joe said it would cause World War III if he sent tanks..."

What's the big deal? Biden's handlers won't be the ones vaporized by a Satan 3.

56 posted on 03/21/2023 1:30:38 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: wally_bert

I’m sure


57 posted on 03/21/2023 1:31:24 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, thed ......)
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To: Carriage Hill

Yep


58 posted on 03/21/2023 1:31:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, thed ......)
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To: jonascord

Exactly - they’ll be in the multi-million dollar bunkers

What, them worry?


59 posted on 03/21/2023 1:33:39 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, thed ......)
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To: PIF

AN-225 destroyed but do they have an AN-124?


60 posted on 03/21/2023 1:34:41 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, thed ......)
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